An interesting xenia comment

ScottT1980 · 11-20-2003, 07:56 PM

I was reading the new issue of FAMA and it has an article that focuses solely on xenia. I know, my first thought was

but I read an interesting quote (FWIW, it is page 114-116 and written by Tony Vargas).

Anywho, he says, "When this coral is inhibited of continual growth it will usually crash..."

I have never heard this mentioned by anyone else and it makes me question all those mysterious xenia melts. I mean, most that have xenia have to trim it constantly. Has anyone else heard this before? If not, I would like to see if there is a source to this idea...

Take er easy
Scott T.

fidojoe · 11-20-2003, 07:59 PM

Never heard that one b4, but could be true. Is xenia a fairly easy coral, they look cool, and I would possibly want one as my 1st coral.

Woodstock · 11-20-2003, 08:06 PM

"..inhibited of continual growth.." ??

Lack of nutrients? Poor placement in the tank? (Like maybe at the tip of a single rock) Lack of proper lighting?

I wonder what they are referring to....

Well, I must have the right stuff for xenia because mine are flourishing!

jks1 · 11-20-2003, 09:33 PM

hmm something to think about, mine has doubled in size and is approaching trimming size.

Salty75 · 11-20-2003, 10:55 PM

While you are on the subject of trimming xenia, what is the recommended method for trimming? I ask because I have some in need of trimming it is taking over almost ¼ of my tank. Don’t get me wrong I love this stuff but enough is enough.

Travis · 11-20-2003, 11:03 PM

Butcher knife, cuisinart, salad shooter.... with xenia the stalk is gonna come back anyway. LOL

My best xenia crowd control to date was a palau green tree coral. I put the xenia next to it and the green tree nuked all 30 stalks of it LOL.

Travis

Witfull · 11-20-2003, 11:10 PM

so thats what happened to that frag i got,,,it was 4-5 inches from my green sinularia,,,,but it was down stream too...hmmmm

fidojoe · 11-20-2003, 11:13 PM

What is the minimum type of lighting for xenia? how tolerant are they of nitrates at about 15-20?

Travis · 11-20-2003, 11:40 PM

Well, I had some grow under a single 55W PC in a 29-gallon, but growth was extreeeeemely slow.

Nitrates? Not sure, but wouldn't sweat it.

T

fidojoe · 11-21-2003, 01:07 AM

Thanks Travis

Craig Manoukian · 11-21-2003, 02:43 AM

I have over harvested my Xenia and almost lost it. There may be some truth to what the FAMA article is aying in my experience.

reefrunner · 11-21-2003, 05:09 AM

I have always read...that if not pruned regularly xenia will choke itself out.

wooddood · 11-21-2003, 05:18 AM

ive never had any luck with the xenas ive tried,they melted away as scott mentioned.

Woodstock · 11-21-2003, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Salty75
While you are on the subject of trimming xenia, what is the recommended method for trimming? I ask because I have some in need of trimming it is taking over almost ¼ of my tank. Don’t get me wrong I love this stuff but enough is enough.

I recently cut about 7 stalks and attached them to frags. At first I glued them but they'd fall right off but I did have success with using a thick rubber band loosely holding them to a frag. Oh, and the stubs that were left behind are growing dozens of baby xenia on them

. After 2 - 3 weeks, I traded the new frags at my LFS for store credit!!

I love my xenia too!

ScottT1980 · 11-21-2003, 08:34 AM

Yeah, I love my xenia and it flourishes. I just worry that with my constant trimming, I could have a melting event and because these are so quick, it could potentially take out my entire tank.

For now I will take my chances but it makes me begin to question whether I should just peel it all off the rocks and get my store credit.

Things that make you go hmmm...

It really is an interesting article, check it out next time you are in your LFS.

Take er easy
Scott T.

11-20-2003, 07:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
ScottT1980 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,484 View Gallery Karma Komment	An interesting xenia comment I was reading the new issue of FAMA and it has an article that focuses solely on xenia. I know, my first thought was but I read an interesting quote (FWIW, it is page 114-116 and written by Tony Vargas). Anywho, he says, "When this coral is inhibited of continual growth it will usually crash..." I have never heard this mentioned by anyone else and it makes me question all those mysterious xenia melts. I mean, most that have xenia have to trim it constantly. Has anyone else heard this before? If not, I would like to see if there is a source to this idea... Take er easy Scott T.

11-20-2003, 07:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
fidojoe Fish Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,581 View Gallery Karma Komment	Never heard that one b4, but could be true. Is xenia a fairly easy coral, they look cool, and I would possibly want one as my 1st coral. __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* My Tank: 90g AGA, 18g tall sump, CSS 220 w/ meshmod impeller, 4x54w Tek T5 retro w/ IC reflectors, Kalk reactor w/ aquamedic niveaumat system, a few SPS, LPS, zoos, and a few softies, 2 Ocellaris Clowns (hosted by both a RBTA and GBTA), Yellow Watchman, Potter's angel, Yellow Tang, Foxface, Midas Blenny, Purple Pseudo, huge brittle star, 2 tigertail cukes, fire shrimp, snails, and unfortunately two emerald crabs (the bubble algae got out of control).

11-20-2003, 08:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,007 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	"..inhibited of continual growth.." ?? Lack of nutrients? Poor placement in the tank? (Like maybe at the tip of a single rock) Lack of proper lighting? I wonder what they are referring to.... Well, I must have the right stuff for xenia because mine are flourishing! __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My QT/Hospital Tank* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

11-20-2003, 09:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
jks1 Achilles Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 876 View Gallery Karma Komment	hmm something to think about, mine has doubled in size and is approaching trimming size. __________________ John Tank: 29g glass Pumps: Mag5.0 return - (3) rio 100 PHs Lighting: (1) 150w XM 10K/(2) 30W actinics Equipment: Aqua C Urchin skimmer- CPR Fuge, Titanium Heater -Red Sea wavemaster Pro Tank: 210g 1/2" Acrylic, dual overflows, 75g glass sump w/ 20g fuge. Pumps: Mag24 return - (2) MAG24s running 2 closed loop systems. Lighting: (3) 400w XM 10K/(2) Custom Sealife 96w PC - 25w dimmable incandescent Moonlight Equipment: Aqua C EV180 skimmer - CR500 calc reactor - Titanium Heater - AquaLogic single Stage Temp Controller - Aquanetics 1/5Hp Chiller - Neptune sys aquacontroller

11-20-2003, 11:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
fidojoe Fish Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,581 View Gallery Karma Komment	What is the minimum type of lighting for xenia? how tolerant are they of nitrates at about 15-20? __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* My Tank: 90g AGA, 18g tall sump, CSS 220 w/ meshmod impeller, 4x54w Tek T5 retro w/ IC reflectors, Kalk reactor w/ aquamedic niveaumat system, a few SPS, LPS, zoos, and a few softies, 2 Ocellaris Clowns (hosted by both a RBTA and GBTA), Yellow Watchman, Potter's angel, Yellow Tang, Foxface, Midas Blenny, Purple Pseudo, huge brittle star, 2 tigertail cukes, fire shrimp, snails, and unfortunately two emerald crabs (the bubble algae got out of control).

11-20-2003, 10:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Salty75 Tunicate Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vienna, IL Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	While you are on the subject of trimming xenia, what is the recommended method for trimming? I ask because I have some in need of trimming it is taking over almost ¼ of my tank. Don’t get me wrong I love this stuff but enough is enough.

11-20-2003, 11:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,584 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Butcher knife, cuisinart, salad shooter.... with xenia the stalk is gonna come back anyway. LOL My best xenia crowd control to date was a palau green tree coral. I put the xenia next to it and the green tree nuked all 30 stalks of it LOL. Travis

11-20-2003, 11:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,584 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Well, I had some grow under a single 55W PC in a 29-gallon, but growth was extreeeeemely slow. Nitrates? Not sure, but wouldn't sweat it. T

11-21-2003, 01:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
fidojoe Fish Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,581 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanks Travis __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* My Tank: 90g AGA, 18g tall sump, CSS 220 w/ meshmod impeller, 4x54w Tek T5 retro w/ IC reflectors, Kalk reactor w/ aquamedic niveaumat system, a few SPS, LPS, zoos, and a few softies, 2 Ocellaris Clowns (hosted by both a RBTA and GBTA), Yellow Watchman, Potter's angel, Yellow Tang, Foxface, Midas Blenny, Purple Pseudo, huge brittle star, 2 tigertail cukes, fire shrimp, snails, and unfortunately two emerald crabs (the bubble algae got out of control).

11-21-2003, 02:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,037 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	I have over harvested my Xenia and almost lost it. There may be some truth to what the FAMA article is aying in my experience. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

11-21-2003, 05:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	I have always read...that if not pruned regularly xenia will choke itself out. __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

11-21-2003, 05:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	ive never had any luck with the xenas ive tried,they melted away as scott mentioned. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

11-21-2003, 08:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
ScottT1980 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,484 View Gallery Karma Komment	Yeah, I love my xenia and it flourishes. I just worry that with my constant trimming, I could have a melting event and because these are so quick, it could potentially take out my entire tank. For now I will take my chances but it makes me begin to question whether I should just peel it all off the rocks and get my store credit. Things that make you go hmmm... It really is an interesting article, check it out next time you are in your LFS. Take er easy Scott T. __________________ My Tank

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