PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build - Page 6

PEMfish · 11-05-2008, 05:45 PM

Now all I need is... everything. About 1k to go including the filter. CO2 and lighting drive it up. But some little stuff for the stand like handles and stain add up along with misc. witch I don't quite know what will be yet but always gets spent weather thing x is more than anticipated or I need 3 test kits more than thought.

Frankie · 11-05-2008, 07:21 PM

yungreefer2410 · 11-05-2008, 07:57 PM

is t5s necessary for fw?

BigAl07 · 11-06-2008, 09:01 AM

I don't think "Necessary" but they are good lights none the less. Think about it... if they are great at growing corals then if you get the right "Temp/Spectrum" then they should also be great for a planted tank. At least in my strange/warped type of reasoning. Of course I don't HAVE or haven't had (at least in this sense) a planted FW but I have grown a LOT of plants in my day.

PEMfish · 11-06-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yungreefer2410

is t5s necessary for fw?

Depends on what your keeping. For what I will be keeping ( plants- high light ) in a 2' deep tank with only 18" to cram something over T5s are.

I got the 405 last night. I also was given an used Rena filstar from my boss.

PEMfish · 11-06-2008, 05:44 PM

Now I need another tank for this filter. Anyone know of some neat FW species tanks?

BigAl07 · 11-06-2008, 05:47 PM

Paul you know I'm gonna need to see some pics of this "Stuff" bro!!

PEMfish · 11-06-2008, 10:24 PM

Thought that might happen.

FYI the Rena is the XP3 they are currently selling.

In some pics I took the media out of the filters.

The foam cartridge holds 4 foam pads and slides in the left. Water first flow it in the filter it is stood up on the top of the canister toward the left. On the right four divided baskets are staked- one is on the rim of the canister in the pic.

BigAl07 · 11-07-2008, 08:44 AM

That looks like a SWEET bro!! Keep up the good work! I'm tagging along

PEMfish · 11-09-2008, 06:23 PM

I will install a loop behind the new tank ( when the time finally comes ). It will return water to the tank from one of two sources;

-The tank. Water will be drawn out, run thought the CO2 reactor, then pumped back into the tank

-Bucket. There will be a vinyl tube I can just drop in a bucket of RODI water ( will make up half the tank volume ) to add it to the tank VS. holding the bucket 5ft in the air wile I slowly pour it in as to not disturb the plants.

There will be a T on the intake side of the pump. both sides of the T will have a ball valve. One side will have the vinyl tube, the other will go to the tank through the reactor.

The rector will be over sized and over complex. I'm basing the design off one I saw in a Fish magazine. It was a piece of acrylic pipe filled with bio balls.

Mine combines that with the cooling channels in plastics molds. The steel molds for plastic products have channels in the coolant is run through after the plastic is cast to cool it before the mold is opened. My brother engineers these molds so I know this. The more twists and turns in the channels the better as the coolant flows through in a turbulent fashion increasing heat absorption.

My CO2 reactor will be built from small diamiter PVC pipe. I will use 1/2" as it it easy to find and has plenty of fittings available, 3/8 copper replacement has no such advantages. The pipe from the tank will be injected with co2 then divided up into 2-4 1/2" pipes with will turn and twist before rejoining into one pipe then going into the pump. I am hoping for 100% CO2 absorption.

I know there are other reactor designs out there, I have seen them. This to me seems like the best one because it is totally contained behind the tank, maintenance free, and effective.

yungreefer2410 · 11-09-2008, 07:33 PM

sounds awesome

PEMfish · 11-10-2008, 08:39 PM

For stocking I plan ( key word there; plan. Normally we define it as the course of action we foresee ourselves taking- with me; it changes; daily )

-2x cory Corydoras spp.
-30+ shrimp. due to costs of cherry, crystal, and amino I will try glass first. Palaemonetes sp.
-1x Kuhli loach. I know this dose not originate from South America but I already have him and he has sentimental value. Pangio Kuhlii.
-2x center piece fish. Don't know what I will get for them yet. Something larger than the others.
-30+ cardinal tetras

Stacef · 11-10-2008, 08:40 PM

Looking wonderful! Subscribing!

PEMfish · 11-11-2008, 04:51 PM

In about 3 months the costly part should be done! From there it the slow part.

BigAl07 · 11-11-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PEMfish

In about 3 months the costly part should be done! From there it the slow part.

Come on now... who are you trying to convince of that? We all KNOW better

11-05-2008, 05:45 PM	#76 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build Now all I need is... everything. About 1k to go including the filter. CO2 and lighting drive it up. But some little stuff for the stand like handles and stain add up along with misc. witch I don't quite know what will be yet but always gets spent weather thing x is more than anticipated or I need 3 test kits more than thought. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

11-06-2008, 09:01 AM	#79 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build I don't think "Necessary" but they are good lights none the less. Think about it... if they are great at growing corals then if you get the right "Temp/Spectrum" then they should also be great for a planted tank. At least in my strange/warped type of reasoning. Of course I don't HAVE or haven't had (at least in this sense) a planted FW but I have grown a LOT of plants in my day. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-06-2008, 05:44 PM	#81 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build Now I need another tank for this filter. Anyone know of some neat FW species tanks? __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

11-06-2008, 05:47 PM	#82 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build Paul you know I'm gonna need to see some pics of this "Stuff" bro!! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-07-2008, 08:44 AM	#84 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build That looks like a SWEET bro!! Keep up the good work! I'm tagging along __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-09-2008, 06:23 PM	#85 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Loop I will install a loop behind the new tank ( when the time finally comes ). It will return water to the tank from one of two sources; -The tank. Water will be drawn out, run thought the CO2 reactor, then pumped back into the tank -Bucket. There will be a vinyl tube I can just drop in a bucket of RODI water ( will make up half the tank volume ) to add it to the tank VS. holding the bucket 5ft in the air wile I slowly pour it in as to not disturb the plants. There will be a T on the intake side of the pump. both sides of the T will have a ball valve. One side will have the vinyl tube, the other will go to the tank through the reactor. The rector will be over sized and over complex. I'm basing the design off one I saw in a Fish magazine. It was a piece of acrylic pipe filled with bio balls. Mine combines that with the cooling channels in plastics molds. The steel molds for plastic products have channels in the coolant is run through after the plastic is cast to cool it before the mold is opened. My brother engineers these molds so I know this. The more twists and turns in the channels the better as the coolant flows through in a turbulent fashion increasing heat absorption. My CO2 reactor will be built from small diamiter PVC pipe. I will use 1/2" as it it easy to find and has plenty of fittings available, 3/8 copper replacement has no such advantages. The pipe from the tank will be injected with co2 then divided up into 2-4 1/2" pipes with will turn and twist before rejoining into one pipe then going into the pump. I am hoping for 100% CO2 absorption. I know there are other reactor designs out there, I have seen them. This to me seems like the best one because it is totally contained behind the tank, maintenance free, and effective. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

11-10-2008, 08:39 PM	#87 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build For stocking I plan ( key word there; plan. Normally we define it as the course of action we foresee ourselves taking- with me; it changes; daily ) -2x cory Corydoras spp. -30+ shrimp. due to costs of cherry, crystal, and amino I will try glass first. Palaemonetes sp. -1x Kuhli loach. I know this dose not originate from South America but I already have him and he has sentimental value. Pangio Kuhlii. -2x center piece fish. Don't know what I will get for them yet. Something larger than the others. -30+ cardinal tetras __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

11-10-2008, 08:40 PM	#88 (permalink)
Stacef Golden Moray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubuque Posts: 2,620 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build Looking wonderful! Subscribing! __________________ Stace My 72g Build-full of pictures, we all know you loce pictures! I've had to pay my price. The things I did not know at first, I learned by doin' twice. -Billy Joel

11-11-2008, 04:51 PM	#89 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: PEMs Freshwater Planted 65G build In about 3 months the costly part should be done! From there it the slow part. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

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