Help! What is wrong with my angel?

Stacef · 05-30-2008, 07:47 PM

Well Rusty, my angel. I have had her since she was tiny!!

Yesterday, I noticed she was getting a little red on her sides of her head near her eyes. And today.... huge bloody bumps, losing her scales.

She was FINE the day before last. Honestly there are a few white spots but it does not look like Ich at all. I have had ich in the past and it didn't look/act as quickly as this.

I have not added any new fish in MONTHS. Please help her!! She's not doing so well today, swimming with her mouth on the surface.

Oh yeah, and she hasn't been rubbing on anything or twitching (signs of ich from what I understand...)

Stacef · 05-30-2008, 08:07 PM

Nobody? Come on guys...

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 10:30 PM

Doesn't look like freshwater ich to me. I've had ich on my fish before, but
I've never had anything like that on my angels before.
I wish I could help.

Try googling FW angel diseases. I don't know any good sights for that.

plecosword · 05-30-2008, 11:28 PM

OMG im so sorry stace, I have lost every one of my *^& angelfish to that!, the only thing that has saved my swordtail from that is melafix from API, I hope he makes it.

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 11:33 PM

Is it bacterial?

Where your angels larger or smaller than Stacey's?
I would think a larger angel would be better able to survive the medication.

plecosword · 05-30-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vdituri

Is it bacterial?

Where your angels larger or smaller than Stacey's?
I would think a larger angel would be better able to survive the medication.

Mine, well one died as a kid, all my other died adults. one survived that I had raised and recently died. also lost 10g full of swordtails, but I dont whant to high-jack this threat

lol

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 11:51 PM

Not a hijack. Good info.
Stacey needs to know what she's up against, and I would like to be armed in case I ever run up against it.
thanks

plecosword · 05-30-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vdituri

Not a hijack. Good info.
Stacey needs to know what she's up against, and I would like to be armed in case I ever run up against it.
thanks

well alright, Honestly, I was never able to save any fish from this, but I was able to prevent it, but does work when it is just new.

PEMfish · 05-30-2008, 11:56 PM

It could be Epizootic Ulcerative Syndrome. EUS is a fungal infection caused by the spices Aphanomyces invadans. The outbreak is triggered by poor or unsuitable water conditions, as are most fish disease.
If your specimen has a loss of movement or appetite I would further look into Aeromonas salmonicida witch is caused by Aeromonas salmonicida, a bacterial infection, as the culprit.

Stacef · 05-31-2008, 12:46 AM

Thanks Victor, Paul, and Mario.

Unfortunately, she has passed. She was from what I know...over 3 years old. But she was bought at a little bit bigger than baby.

I am really bummed about this. She was my favorite!! Even with the name Rusty!

It was just so sudden, and random. I do regular water changes. I have Never had a problem with infections in this tank, except one ich breakout..only got one fish though, and it was after a new addition.

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 12:48 AM

sorry to hear

Stacef · 05-31-2008, 12:51 AM

Thanks Mario, I am really sad about it!! But I guess it happens, and she has had a great life!!!

PEMfish · 05-31-2008, 01:21 AM

With it being more sudden it sounds a little more like EUS to me. Are there any other fish left in that tank? They will probably contract ti if exposed.

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacef

Thanks Mario, I am really sad about it!! But I guess it happens, and she has had a great life!!!

It happened to me too. I raised mine and he lasted at least 2 years too, cant remember. btw, your not on msn? lol

goldenmean · 05-31-2008, 01:42 AM

Im so sorry Stace!

05-30-2008, 07:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Stacef Golden Moray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubuque Posts: 2,620 View Gallery Karma Komment	Help! What is wrong with my angel? Well Rusty, my angel. I have had her since she was tiny!! Yesterday, I noticed she was getting a little red on her sides of her head near her eyes. And today.... huge bloody bumps, losing her scales. She was FINE the day before last. Honestly there are a few white spots but it does not look like Ich at all. I have had ich in the past and it didn't look/act as quickly as this. I have not added any new fish in MONTHS. Please help her!! She's not doing so well today, swimming with her mouth on the surface. Oh yeah, and she hasn't been rubbing on anything or twitching (signs of ich from what I understand...) __________________ Stace My 72g Build-full of pictures, we all know you loce pictures! I've had to pay my price. The things I did not know at first, I learned by doin' twice. -Billy Joel

05-30-2008, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stacef Golden Moray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubuque Posts: 2,620 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? Nobody? Come on guys... __________________ Stace My 72g Build-full of pictures, we all know you loce pictures! I've had to pay my price. The things I did not know at first, I learned by doin' twice. -Billy Joel

05-30-2008, 10:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 6,244 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? Doesn't look like freshwater ich to me. I've had ich on my fish before, but I've never had anything like that on my angels before. I wish I could help. Try googling FW angel diseases. I don't know any good sights for that. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

05-30-2008, 11:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
plecosword Acropora Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: So CA Posts: 1,888 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? OMG im so sorry stace, I have lost every one of my *^& angelfish to that!, the only thing that has saved my swordtail from that is melafix from API, I hope he makes it. __________________ --Mario/Andre "Never try to tell everything you know. It may take too short a time" !!!20g for reals!!! 55G

05-30-2008, 11:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 6,244 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? Is it bacterial? Where your angels larger or smaller than Stacey's? I would think a larger angel would be better able to survive the medication. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

05-30-2008, 11:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 6,244 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? Not a hijack. Good info. Stacey needs to know what she's up against, and I would like to be armed in case I ever run up against it. thanks __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

05-30-2008, 11:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? It could be Epizootic Ulcerative Syndrome. EUS is a fungal infection caused by the spices Aphanomyces invadans. The outbreak is triggered by poor or unsuitable water conditions, as are most fish disease. If your specimen has a loss of movement or appetite I would further look into Aeromonas salmonicida witch is caused by Aeromonas salmonicida, a bacterial infection, as the culprit. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

05-31-2008, 12:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Stacef Golden Moray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubuque Posts: 2,620 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? Thanks Victor, Paul, and Mario. Unfortunately, she has passed. She was from what I know...over 3 years old. But she was bought at a little bit bigger than baby. I am really bummed about this. She was my favorite!! Even with the name Rusty! It was just so sudden, and random. I do regular water changes. I have Never had a problem with infections in this tank, except one ich breakout..only got one fish though, and it was after a new addition. __________________ Stace My 72g Build-full of pictures, we all know you loce pictures! I've had to pay my price. The things I did not know at first, I learned by doin' twice. -Billy Joel

05-31-2008, 12:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
plecosword Acropora Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: So CA Posts: 1,888 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? sorry to hear __________________ --Mario/Andre "Never try to tell everything you know. It may take too short a time" !!!20g for reals!!! 55G

05-31-2008, 12:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
Stacef Golden Moray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubuque Posts: 2,620 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? Thanks Mario, I am really sad about it!! But I guess it happens, and she has had a great life!!! __________________ Stace My 72g Build-full of pictures, we all know you loce pictures! I've had to pay my price. The things I did not know at first, I learned by doin' twice. -Billy Joel

05-31-2008, 01:21 AM	#13 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help! What is wrong with my angel? With it being more sudden it sounds a little more like EUS to me. Are there any other fish left in that tank? They will probably contract ti if exposed. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

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