Co2

PEMfish · 03-09-2008, 12:21 AM

Well, I have not been on this side of the question about CO2 for a long time...
I asking it. I know bottled is so much better than DIY but DIY it is for me. instead of one big 2L pop bottle that causes flux through out the month, what about a few small bottles replaced at staggered times. Same amount of the CO2 concoction, same one line into the tank... but a few bottles. Say 6 each with 21oz in them. And replace one per week, so each one lives out a 6 week life as normal.
Why is this a bad idea? Is it a bad idea?
If not, please delete thread until patent... j/k.

PEMfish · 03-09-2008, 12:26 AM

Oh, ops. If anyone* wants to change the o in the title of this tread to a capital O, don't be shy, LOL.
Thanks.

Scouter Steve · 03-09-2008, 12:49 AM

I think the problem with mixing small bottles would be the small amount of CO2 would not create enough pressure to flow into the tank. Just a thought I have no experience with that. I used 2 and 3 litre bottles. I did often have two bottles running to one tank at different stages in production.

PEMfish · 03-09-2008, 02:17 PM

Well it would be the same amount of the concoction, there for, in theory, the same amount of CO2 and pressure. It would still only be one line into the tank.

sasquatch · 03-09-2008, 02:35 PM

have you looked at the paint ball gun systems?

PEMfish · 03-09-2008, 02:44 PM

Can't find much good info on that... Any details?

Scouter Steve · 03-09-2008, 03:12 PM

Think of the air space above each small bottle. Would that be near the same as 1 2L bottle? I am not sure but worth a try.

PEMfish · 03-09-2008, 03:38 PM

It could be any amount of air in there I want.

jnohs · 03-09-2008, 05:30 PM

i have a red sea paint ball system with tank only missing air line tubing 15$ at most and no ph moniter that comes with it. but it is very inacurate. I used it for a week and through it out. ne way i will sell it for 110 plus shipping. half price. I have the bubble counter, pressure reducing valve, co2 cannister(paint ball size), co2 reaction chamber and pump, and the needle valve. only needes air line hoseing. the ggod stuff though. because the cheep stuff corrodes.

jnohs · 03-09-2008, 05:36 PM

i have had the diy yeast systems, hagen makes a cool one. but in my openion they all stink. bottled is nice and easy acurate and cheeper in the long run. Suger for 4 two leiter bottles cost a lot. compared to 4 dollars every 3-4 weeks.plus if the yeast backs up into your system it can creat havock. plus most people go with the diy systems because bottled usally cost more to start up . the system i have is definalty a huge step up from diy yest. but it is the cheapest way to get bottled co2 to your tank.and very effective my plants took off like weeds.

PEMfish · 03-09-2008, 10:55 PM

Your such a sales person. I costs me $.81 per 6 weeks. So, anyone with public paint ball system knowledge?

PEMfish · 03-15-2008, 02:46 PM

Hey, I just realized, this is a $3 project. Worth the up grade. 6 24 oz Coke bottles ( free ), 5 Air line T's ( $3 ), Glue - aqarium silicone is what should be used, but I have some epoxy that should do the trick for $5 less. Line ( have some extra ), and thats all folks. I will get too doing this soon. Soon as I have the bottles, and by that time I will have the T's bought too.

PEMfish · 04-21-2008, 08:06 PM

Well I got it built today. Will add concoction in two days as silicone needs to dry. It is an up grade, but I used vinyl air line, instead of silicone, and the rack for the bottles was done in 3 min, that should speak of the effort put into that item. Still, a free upgrade can't be complained about. The Bubble counter may be replaced too as its just a piece of 3/8" tube.

ramora · 05-13-2008, 09:28 PM

nice good luck.

E46er · 06-28-2008, 09:24 PM

very inaccurate even with multiple bottles and inconsistant CO2 is a major contributing factor to many forms of algae.

03-09-2008, 12:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Co2 Well, I have not been on this side of the question about CO2 for a long time... I asking it. I know bottled is so much better than DIY but DIY it is for me. instead of one big 2L pop bottle that causes flux through out the month, what about a few small bottles replaced at staggered times. Same amount of the CO2 concoction, same one line into the tank... but a few bottles. Say 6 each with 21oz in them. And replace one per week, so each one lives out a 6 week life as normal. Why is this a bad idea? Is it a bad idea? If not, please delete thread until patent... j/k. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

03-09-2008, 12:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 Oh, ops. If anyone* wants to change the o in the title of this tread to a capital O, don't be shy, LOL. Thanks. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

03-09-2008, 12:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Scouter Steve Neon dottyback Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somers Wisconsin (Kenosha County) Posts: 687 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Co2 I think the problem with mixing small bottles would be the small amount of CO2 would not create enough pressure to flow into the tank. Just a thought I have no experience with that. I used 2 and 3 litre bottles. I did often have two bottles running to one tank at different stages in production.

03-09-2008, 02:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 Well it would be the same amount of the concoction, there for, in theory, the same amount of CO2 and pressure. It would still only be one line into the tank. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

03-09-2008, 02:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,981 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 have you looked at the paint ball gun systems?

03-09-2008, 02:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 Can't find much good info on that... Any details? __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

03-09-2008, 03:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Scouter Steve Neon dottyback Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somers Wisconsin (Kenosha County) Posts: 687 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Co2 Think of the air space above each small bottle. Would that be near the same as 1 2L bottle? I am not sure but worth a try.

03-09-2008, 03:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 It could be any amount of air in there I want. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

03-09-2008, 05:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
jnohs Neon dottyback Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: copiague long island Posts: 699 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 i have a red sea paint ball system with tank only missing air line tubing 15$ at most and no ph moniter that comes with it. but it is very inacurate. I used it for a week and through it out. ne way i will sell it for 110 plus shipping. half price. I have the bubble counter, pressure reducing valve, co2 cannister(paint ball size), co2 reaction chamber and pump, and the needle valve. only needes air line hoseing. the ggod stuff though. because the cheep stuff corrodes. __________________ GO SLOW

03-09-2008, 05:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
jnohs Neon dottyback Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: copiague long island Posts: 699 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 i have had the diy yeast systems, hagen makes a cool one. but in my openion they all stink. bottled is nice and easy acurate and cheeper in the long run. Suger for 4 two leiter bottles cost a lot. compared to 4 dollars every 3-4 weeks.plus if the yeast backs up into your system it can creat havock. plus most people go with the diy systems because bottled usally cost more to start up . the system i have is definalty a huge step up from diy yest. but it is the cheapest way to get bottled co2 to your tank.and very effective my plants took off like weeds. __________________ GO SLOW

03-09-2008, 10:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 Your such a sales person. I costs me $.81 per 6 weeks. So, anyone with public paint ball system knowledge? __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

03-15-2008, 02:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 Hey, I just realized, this is a $3 project. Worth the up grade. 6 24 oz Coke bottles ( free ), 5 Air line T's ( $3 ), Glue - aqarium silicone is what should be used, but I have some epoxy that should do the trick for $5 less. Line ( have some extra ), and thats all folks. I will get too doing this soon. Soon as I have the bottles, and by that time I will have the T's bought too. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

05-13-2008, 09:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
ramora Ricordea Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: albert lea minnesota Posts: 197 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Co2 nice good luck. __________________ Nano reef Club

06-28-2008, 09:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
E46er Bryozoan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 49 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Co2 very inaccurate even with multiple bottles and inconsistant CO2 is a major contributing factor to many forms of algae.

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