Who keeps stingrays? Fresh or salt? Or has a shark?

[Stacef]

Originally Posted by AQTCJAK

Green Moray Eel I found hiding out:

That is a 1320 in the living room 380 Gallon Sump 20KGPH flow 1K Watts UV 2 HP Chiller, 2 Massive Skimmers

Wow! This is in your living room?? The thing is HUGE! Do you have anymore pics? Possibly larger so I can see them better?

Also---do you have any pictures of your sharks? Someone mentioned you have sharks.. I am looking through tthe threads listed in your signature now, but if you have any others, that'd be wonderful!! Thanks!

[plecosword]

Woa thats soo cool!! green Moray! those are nasty little butts. I cant wait for the cement tank!!

[plecosword]

Stace, how large would the fish be? could it be as big as a shark, or as big as my poodle? lol

[Frankie]

Stans got one in his tank. Tank of the Month - January 2008 - Reefkeeping.com

[Stacef]

Originally Posted by plecosword

Stace, how large would the fish be? could it be as big as a shark, or as big as my poodle? lol

How big would what fish be? We are thinking primarily a Ray/Shark tank with the large tank. That leaves us with the 90g Acyrlic bowfront for reefing...

[plecosword]

Wohoo! we just might both have 90 gallons then, just maybe, and i would so get the clown trigg, but you would get the Picaso and his blue trigg. there is not many inverts you can keep though i guess. If i had a big tank like that i Would keep Moray eels!! SHarks! and stingrays. hmm ohhh a school of some sort of fish!!!

[Stacef]

Mario--
You are getting too excited! It's still MONTHS away. Also, get onto MSN.
Anyways!

Are there any sharks that stay remotely small??

[plecosword]

you have no idea! Im always happy lol anyway, did you see Blue zoo's and live aquarias sharks and rays? http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/scateg.cfm?pCatId=41
Blue Zoo Aquatics :: Sharks

[AQTCJAK]

Basically as for sharks you are looking @ to stay small Eastern Pacific Horn Sharks, Port Jackson Horn Sharks, Epolet Sharks, Banned Cat Sharks Marble Sharks they get 4-5' however a 5' shark has alot of strength. In dealling with Sharks I have had my fair share of getting them out of tanks the last 2 large ones were a 5" foot nurse which was like being in a street brawl that lasted hours. & a 4' Lemmon which was like dealing with Jaws himself very vicious even out of the water.

[leahski]

it just seems like it would be such a sad, aweful life for a shark or ray or moray in a tank even that large. its one thing to keep fish that have much smaller home ranges and wouldn't know the difference between a 50g aquarium and the entire ocean, but sharks and rays need room to swim and hunt. they're solitary creatures.
and its not like you'll be building massive rock caves and underwater structures for them to hide amongst and maybe have a chance to feel at home - you're not building them a reef, your putting them in a tank.

sorry, i don't mean to attack you or imply anything about people who keep these animals. i'm sure there are many who keep them successfully. its just me being a lorax...

if you do keep rays or sharks, i'd just urge you to not see how many you can "comfortably" fit in the tank, keep like one or a pair and get a cool school of something. i think that would be a much happier healthier arrangement.

[Stacef]

Originally Posted by leahski

it just seems like it would be such a sad, aweful life for a shark or ray or moray in a tank even that large. its one thing to keep fish that have much smaller home ranges and wouldn't know the difference between a 50g aquarium and the entire ocean, but sharks and rays need room to swim and hunt. they're solitary creatures.
and its not like you'll be building massive rock caves and underwater structures for them to hide amongst and maybe have a chance to feel at home - you're not building them a reef, your putting them in a tank.

sorry, i don't mean to attack you or imply anything about people who keep these animals. i'm sure there are many who keep them successfully. its just me being a lorax...

if you do keep rays or sharks, i'd just urge you to not see how many you can "comfortably" fit in the tank, keep like one or a pair and get a cool school of something. i think that would be a much happier healthier arrangement.

Your opinion is wonderful! I like to hear when people disagree honestly, puts an insight on the "other sides view" Anyways, I would HONESTLY just like to have 2 stingrays, which I will have PLENTY of room for. My boyfriend wants a shark. Who knows what it will come to, but I do NOT plan on cramming the poor guys in. I often think of how my fish feel, and yes, I get made fun of by family, friends constantly. Even me mentioning that I want to get more hiding spots so they feel more comfortable, they look lost to as why I care.

I appreciate your opinion, Thanks!!

[leahski]

that's great to hear, i think that rays would be amazing animals to keep, and two should have a great life in there. i just get nervous when people start talking about cramming in tankloads of animals that basically HAVE to be imported from reefs. every ray/shark that dies in an aquarium due to bad husbandry is one more ray/shark that could have been living a long happy life on its reef. (i'll get off of my soap box now!)

hehe, i love thinking about what fish are feeling, what would make them more comfortable too! (i even do it with my corals and shrimps, since that's basically all i have right now! )

so, a concrete aquarium. will viewing be only from the top?

[Stacef]

Right now we are talking 3 sides being viewed, but then we started talking making it just a top tank.. soo it's still... up in the air!! But I am off to bed, I will add more on this tomorrow, As the cookie crumbles.

[Frankie]

I agree that sharks and rays need the right type of person to care properly for them. Like Jack said, these are dangerous animals.
As for being cruel, you would be surprised at how many miles a yellow tang can travel in a day. or how much territory an eel has in the wild. There are times when i think i just might have to revert to small fish when my large ones die. Getting rid of them is out of the question now that i am responsible for them. It is one of the reasons i am upgrading this year.

[SubRosa]

If you are serious about keeping sharks keep several things in mind.All of the species that AQTCJAK listed are indeed the most suitable for home keeping.But they're not "real sharks".They are called Requiem Sharks,and they lay around on the bottom like lumps until food happens.If you expect them to be what most people consider sharks you will be disappointed.Pelagic sharks require ALOT more than a couple of hundred gallons.And unless the tank is circular it really is cruelty to keep them.Consider setting up an above ground circular pool in your basement if you want to keep "real sharks".Just remember to use an EPDM pond liner as vinyl pool liners are toxic.