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Old 02-17-2008, 12:26 PM   #61 (permalink)
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for the DIY co2 system, i would suggess to get a co2 cylinder system. cause the DIY CO2 is insufficient for a 20gal tank.
Yeah right. DIY can be scaled up to work on 50g. A bottle system costs $200+ not including the bottles, or CO2. There are benefits, but no need to go bottled.
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Old 02-17-2008, 12:48 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Yeah right. DIY can be scaled up to work on 50g. A bottle system costs $200+ not including the bottles, or CO2. There are benefits, but no need to go bottled.
sure a diy system can be scaled up but, consistancy and time are more valuable than 200 bucks, I lease my bottles its cheap,gas is cheap and a new reg and solenoid is like 120.00
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Old 02-17-2008, 07:01 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Re: Taro 2ft planted tank

Well, like i said, it dose have benefits, but not a necessity. Plus, $115 ( the diff between DIY vs bottled ) can buy alot in FW.
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Old 02-17-2008, 08:05 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Re: Taro 2ft planted tank

yes I prefer the CO2 cylinder too, its more stable and I can see the big differencce from DIY. even my nano 1ft X 1ft X 1ft, it is so unstable with the DIY CO2, and it will cause stem plant stop growing. red plants become green, Plant are melting. which will also lead to algea problem. feel its worth the $ for the CO2 system.

if the tank is below 13gal, DIY CO2 will do the basic need.

but if there is a budget. a DIY co2 with a CO2 reactor will be better

by the way USD200, how big is the CO2 cylinder?

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Old 02-19-2008, 12:16 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Re: Taro 2ft planted tank

I cut, I cut, I CUT CUT CUT heheh i trim my tank again.. the tenellus is very messy. need to pull out some of them.


got a new Rotala, but not sure what Rotala is it.
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whoa Bullytaro, looks like the plants need alot of cutting. I cannot see the path now. Clear the path so that your shrimps can walk through.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:44 AM   #67 (permalink)
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you need to hand out machetes to those shrimp
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LOL... yes i just pull out some of the tenellus, now it looks better. end of the path looks no more, cause i wrape my tank with foil paper. with the reflection the end looks like block by the plants :P
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Anyway Bullytaro, the tank is still looking good. Keep up the good work.
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Old 02-23-2008, 12:28 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I am a newb on fresh water and i owns 2 nano tank for freshwater. I wanted to make one of them into a mostly "planted" tank. So where so i start and what kind of cements you can use to grow these freshwater plants?
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Hijacker! We all do it .
Cement!?!?!?!?!?!?!? WTF? You need;
2.5-5 WPG of 6700k-10000k of light. This will dictate what you can keep.
2"-5" of substrate. Either plant substrate with gravel on top, or gravel or sand with fert tabs.
CO2. DIY is cheapest, but bottled is better.
Fertilizers. Need a complete plant fert mix like this; Supplements for Healthy Planted Aquariums: Seachem Flourish . Balancing the CO2, light, and ferts will keep you algae free.
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Sorry the cement i was talking about was gravel.. should i use gravel that raise ph or the one that lower ph?
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Sorry the cement i was talking about was gravel.. should i use gravel that raise ph or the one that lower ph?
depends on what your doing, i run crushed coral in a separate cannister to raise ph when using c02, you should research substrates as there are many and all designed for a purpose, some use expensive mixes, some use playsand
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:02 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Dont use gravel. personally I would use florite in the 3-4 inch deep range. Use 6700K lights and get as much lighting as you can afford. It allows more options, also i recommend seachems florish for ferts and florish trace iron for your plants. Do some research before you set up anything it will save you money in the long run, unless you have some $$ to spend Try and keep your lights below 5wpg also.
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