Betas

michael_cb_125 · 11-20-2007, 05:51 PM

I have always liked bettas. I have one when I was like 2. Everytime I have gone to the petstore I have to go see the Bettas. I want to get a small betta tank. One male and one female. I think they would be ok in a 5 gallon planted tank. I want to used the Current Powerbrite LED lighting. Will this work over a 5 gallon tank. And would I need the 10K or the 10K/Actinic. Thanks for any help.

zimboy · 11-20-2007, 06:02 PM

i tried to keep a female and male betta in a 10G planted, and the male betta chased the female around until she was almost dead, so i pulled the male, put him in a 1 gal and left the female to get used to the 10G, put rocks and some driftwood for hiding places, and added more plants. Then added the male again hoping the rearrange and new decor would help, but as soon as he hit the water he was after her again. I got so pissed off at him i tossed him in the tank with the arrowana. A burst of colourful scales later and i now have a peaceful female betta.

Moral: male bettas are a**holes to just about anything that moves....

BEELZEBOB · 11-20-2007, 06:04 PM

i woulda taken out the female...

i realllly like the half-moon bettas you can buy on ebay. much more striking than the run of the mill blue toliet water petco ones.

michael_cb_125 · 11-20-2007, 06:05 PM

Then how do you breed them?

BEELZEBOB · 11-20-2007, 06:07 PM

Booze. and Al Green doesnt hurt

zimboy · 11-20-2007, 06:10 PM

i dunno, i got so pissed off that i never bothered doing any research. Possibly they are not so aggressive when the females are receptive to breeding, or maybe i just got the all time jerk betta. I do have another male betta with a dwarf african frog and he chases the frog around too. He used to chase my rosy red feeders when i put a couple of them in the tank. Maybe it has something to do with being kept in a cup for who knows how long on the shelves. I'd be pretty peeved off at the world if my first few months were spent in a cup....

zimboy · 11-20-2007, 09:17 PM

Now you went and did it. I researched the little jerks... i mean betta's. When trying to keep betta's together, you need at least 4 females to every male, this allows the male's aggression to be split amongst all the females. betta females can be kept together without any aggression.Some sites recommend never keeping male bettas with any other bettas as they can be too agressive. When breeding betta's, the breeding female is usually placed in a glass cylinder for the first day, this is to protect her from the males overly aggressive courting which can often kill the female. They also seem to be quite picky about their mates, if they don't like the female or vice versa, they can either totally ignore each other or fight to the death.

hope this quick summary helps
Adam

kathywithbirds · 11-20-2007, 09:29 PM

Yup, Zimboy's right on. It also helps to put them all together in a shallow bowl (think serving platter with sides) with some live plants in. Doesn't have to be much to look at. Remove the females after they've laid the eggs, the make is the one who cares for the eggs. The male makes a "bubble nest" at the top where the eggs sit. He will take care of the fry too.

kathywithbirds · 11-20-2007, 09:44 PM

Hey Michael

check out this link:

Breeding Bettas, by Kick

great info on breeding them. I've had various experiences with breeding them and I pretty much ended up not putting males adn females together EVER except to breed. They fight too much.

michael_cb_125 · 11-20-2007, 10:26 PM

Thanks everyone. I just went and got the tank. am going to use a 2.5 gallon tank. I will get it setup with Live plants. Hopefully I can do this right.

PEMfish · 11-20-2007, 10:36 PM

Now what are you hens clucking about? Breding bettas. I bet ya $5 you won't get a true opaque within the first 20 trys. Or chocolate for that matter. Reds are a good beginner strain to try, if you like purebreds. If not A blue/red combo is manageable 3 Fs from source.

michael_cb_125 · 11-20-2007, 11:14 PM

Well, I got the tank and the light. I am going to use LED lighting on this little tank. What Type of filtration do you use on a small planted Betta tank?

kathywithbirds · 11-20-2007, 11:28 PM

You know the bettas don't need any filtration at all, I just use an airstone. They're puddle dwellers,

the plants and all, got me.

reefjitsu · 11-20-2007, 11:58 PM

Quote:

I got so pissed off at him i tossed him in the tank with the arrowana. A burst of colourful scales later and i now have a peaceful female betta.

Fionn_Matt325 · 11-21-2007, 12:02 AM

whatever filtration you do go with just make sure that the flow isn't to strong. they prefer calm waters over the jets of a marine tank.

11-20-2007, 05:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Reef Shark Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 5,600 View Gallery Karma Komment	Betas I have always liked bettas. I have one when I was like 2. Everytime I have gone to the petstore I have to go see the Bettas. I want to get a small betta tank. One male and one female. I think they would be ok in a 5 gallon planted tank. I want to used the Current Powerbrite LED lighting. Will this work over a 5 gallon tank. And would I need the 10K or the 10K/Actinic. Thanks for any help. __________________ All Fish are "Semi-Reef Safe"

11-20-2007, 06:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
zimboy Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 296 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Betas i tried to keep a female and male betta in a 10G planted, and the male betta chased the female around until she was almost dead, so i pulled the male, put him in a 1 gal and left the female to get used to the 10G, put rocks and some driftwood for hiding places, and added more plants. Then added the male again hoping the rearrange and new decor would help, but as soon as he hit the water he was after her again. I got so pissed off at him i tossed him in the tank with the arrowana. A burst of colourful scales later and i now have a peaceful female betta. Moral: male bettas are a*holes to just about anything that moves.... Last edited by zimboy : 11-20-2007 at 06:04 PM. Reason: edit language*

11-20-2007, 06:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas i woulda taken out the female... i realllly like the half-moon bettas you can buy on ebay. much more striking than the run of the mill blue toliet water petco ones. __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

11-20-2007, 06:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Reef Shark Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 5,600 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas Then how do you breed them? __________________ All Fish are "Semi-Reef Safe"

11-20-2007, 06:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas Booze. and Al Green doesnt hurt __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

11-20-2007, 06:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
zimboy Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 296 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Betas i dunno, i got so pissed off that i never bothered doing any research. Possibly they are not so aggressive when the females are receptive to breeding, or maybe i just got the all time jerk betta. I do have another male betta with a dwarf african frog and he chases the frog around too. He used to chase my rosy red feeders when i put a couple of them in the tank. Maybe it has something to do with being kept in a cup for who knows how long on the shelves. I'd be pretty peeved off at the world if my first few months were spent in a cup....

11-20-2007, 09:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
zimboy Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 296 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Betas Now you went and did it. I researched the little jerks... i mean betta's. When trying to keep betta's together, you need at least 4 females to every male, this allows the male's aggression to be split amongst all the females. betta females can be kept together without any aggression.Some sites recommend never keeping male bettas with any other bettas as they can be too agressive. When breeding betta's, the breeding female is usually placed in a glass cylinder for the first day, this is to protect her from the males overly aggressive courting which can often kill the female. They also seem to be quite picky about their mates, if they don't like the female or vice versa, they can either totally ignore each other or fight to the death. hope this quick summary helps Adam

11-20-2007, 09:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
kathywithbirds Social Darwinism victim Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Hood, NJ Posts: 5,937 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas Yup, Zimboy's right on. It also helps to put them all together in a shallow bowl (think serving platter with sides) with some live plants in. Doesn't have to be much to look at. Remove the females after they've laid the eggs, the make is the one who cares for the eggs. The male makes a "bubble nest" at the top where the eggs sit. He will take care of the fry too. __________________ (\_/) (\__/) ( . .) (^.^) (")(") (> <) Bunny and Bunnina have worked things out. Bunny was mistaken after all, Bunnina was not having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang

11-20-2007, 09:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
kathywithbirds Social Darwinism victim Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Hood, NJ Posts: 5,937 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas Hey Michael check out this link: Breeding Bettas, by Kick great info on breeding them. I've had various experiences with breeding them and I pretty much ended up not putting males adn females together EVER except to breed. They fight too much. __________________ (\_/) (\__/) ( . .) (^.^) (")(") (> <) Bunny and Bunnina have worked things out. Bunny was mistaken after all, Bunnina was not having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang

11-20-2007, 10:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Reef Shark Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 5,600 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas Thanks everyone. I just went and got the tank. am going to use a 2.5 gallon tank. I will get it setup with Live plants. Hopefully I can do this right. __________________ All Fish are "Semi-Reef Safe"

11-20-2007, 10:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Betas Now what are you hens clucking about? Breding bettas. I bet ya $5 you won't get a true opaque within the first 20 trys. Or chocolate for that matter. Reds are a good beginner strain to try, if you like purebreds. If not A blue/red combo is manageable 3 Fs from source. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

11-20-2007, 11:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Reef Shark Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 5,600 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas Well, I got the tank and the light. I am going to use LED lighting on this little tank. What Type of filtration do you use on a small planted Betta tank? __________________ All Fish are "Semi-Reef Safe"

11-20-2007, 11:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
kathywithbirds Social Darwinism victim Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Hood, NJ Posts: 5,937 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas You know the bettas don't need any filtration at all, I just use an airstone. They're puddle dwellers, the plants and all, got me. __________________ (\_/) (\__/) ( . .) (^.^) (")(") (> <) Bunny and Bunnina have worked things out. Bunny was mistaken after all, Bunnina was not having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang

11-21-2007, 12:02 AM	#15 (permalink)
Fionn_Matt325 Ricordea Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 175 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Betas whatever filtration you do go with just make sure that the flow isn't to strong. they prefer calm waters over the jets of a marine tank. __________________ 34 Gallon Red Sea Changed from 10 gal. basic freshwater after a few years. It always comes back to Nemo

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