Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today!

plecosword · 07-22-2008, 11:59 AM

I saw 2 dot about a week ago, then it went away, its spreading.
The Other guy is clear. both are breathing fine, no itching, scratching. They stopped fighting!

my camera is really blurry

one more thing, does this one look like it could be a black clownfish?

rlcline76 · 07-22-2008, 12:12 PM

Poor fish.
You are going to need a QT set up.

lcstorc · 07-22-2008, 12:21 PM

Moved to disease forum

lcstorc · 07-22-2008, 12:25 PM

Very hard to tell from the pics provided, but I agree that they need to be moved to a QT for potential treatment.
Meanwhile post as much info as you have.
Size of tank, inhabitants, time you have had them, feeding routine, parameters. Anything you can think of. The more detail the better.

plecosword · 07-22-2008, 12:33 PM

well its a 20g, I guess I can temporarly empty my 10g into my 55.
all ammonia, nitrites and nitrates are zero.
PH is still 7.8
umm, ive had them for 3 weeks I think if not more. Im not even completely sure if thats ick or just bubbles, some of it just went away now that I check.?

I dont have a bubble trap on the skimmer, could that be it?

lcstorc · 07-22-2008, 12:34 PM

It is possible but ich spots will often come and go as well.
I would get the qt ready and monitor very closely.

PEMfish · 07-22-2008, 12:37 PM

Once you treat them in the 10g it will have to be torn down if you ever want want inverts in there. again.

rlcline76 · 07-22-2008, 12:38 PM

Mario, those are definitely not bubbles.

lcstorc · 07-22-2008, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PEMfish

Once you treat them in the 10g it will have to be torn down if you ever want want inverts in there. again.

That is what a QT/hospotal tank is about. It is not a place to keep your animals long term. It is for observation and treatment of new or sick fish. There is an excellent sticky about setting up a qt tank. No LR, no sand. Just a small filter and heater with a few pieces of pvc for the fish to hide in.

PEMfish · 07-22-2008, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

That is what a QT/hospotal tank is about. It is not a place to keep your animals long term. It is for observation and treatment of new or sick fish. There is an excellent sticky about setting up a qt tank. No LR, no sand. Just a small filter and heater with a few pieces of pvc for the fish to hide in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by plecosword

well its a 20g, I guess I can temporarly empty my 10g into my 55.

lcstorc · 07-22-2008, 12:45 PM

Absolutely correct. If you treat with copper (the best treatment for ich) you will not be able to keep inverts in the tank. You should however keep a qt tank around for situations like this and to QT new fish.

plecosword · 07-22-2008, 01:05 PM

ok, well im serious, it totally went away right now. its hard taking pics with clowns and blury camera.

lcstorc · 07-22-2008, 01:08 PM

Keep watching. It may even be tomorrow. With my Chevron it was covered with spots in the morning and they were gone by afternoon only to re-appear in the morning again.
I'm certainly not saying it is ICH just that I don't have enough info to say it is not.

nikkipigtails · 07-22-2008, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

Absolutely correct. If you treat with copper (the best treatment for ich) you will not be able to keep inverts in the tank. You should however keep a qt tank around for situations like this and to QT new fish.

I hate to disagree with you, Lynn, but we thought that too and Boomer said that the silicone can't absorb the copper. So as long as it's an empty tank, it should be fine.

Copper in silicone

plecosword · 07-22-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

Keep watching. It may even be tomorrow. With my Chevron it was covered with spots in the morning and they were gone by afternoon only to re-appear in the morning again.
I'm certainly not saying it is ICH just that I don't have enough info to say it is not.

That is what is happening to me! I have bubbles all over the place, so I don't know. The guy had all his fish really healthy at the LFS. I guess they just wake up bubbly hahaha.
Thanks for the link Niki
I fixed my camara, manual focus and cleaned the lens!
Better?

07-22-2008, 11:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,027 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today! I saw 2 dot about a week ago, then it went away, its spreading. The Other guy is clear. both are breathing fine, no itching, scratching. They stopped fighting! my camera is really blurry one more thing, does this one look like it could be a black clownfish? __________________ --Andre !!!20g for reals!!!

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today! Moved to disease forum __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today! Very hard to tell from the pics provided, but I agree that they need to be moved to a QT for potential treatment. Meanwhile post as much info as you have. Size of tank, inhabitants, time you have had them, feeding routine, parameters. Anything you can think of. The more detail the better. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

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plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,027 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today! well its a 20g, I guess I can temporarly empty my 10g into my 55. all ammonia, nitrites and nitrates are zero. PH is still 7.8 umm, ive had them for 3 weeks I think if not more. Im not even completely sure if thats ick or just bubbles, some of it just went away now that I check.? I dont have a bubble trap on the skimmer, could that be it? __________________ --Andre !!!20g for reals!!!

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today! It is possible but ich spots will often come and go as well. I would get the qt ready and monitor very closely. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today! Absolutely correct. If you treat with copper (the best treatment for ich) you will not be able to keep inverts in the tank. You should however keep a qt tank around for situations like this and to QT new fish. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

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plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,027 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today! ok, well im serious, it totally went away right now. its hard taking pics with clowns and blury camera. __________________ --Andre !!!20g for reals!!!

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Oh, Clowns woke up Icky Today! Keep watching. It may even be tomorrow. With my Chevron it was covered with spots in the morning and they were gone by afternoon only to re-appear in the morning again. I'm certainly not saying it is ICH just that I don't have enough info to say it is not. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

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