white things on tang - Page 2

mswiss · 03-04-2008, 10:24 PM

its a joke lighten up

Necsones · 03-04-2008, 11:35 PM

hehe yeah thats on the glass.. i thought he was a lil slim myself, hes been picking away at all the algea on the glass and rocks all the time, gos nuts for forzen brine shrimp.. i feed it 2 times a day, when it thores out looks about 20or so lil brine shrimps.. im scared to over feed and scared to under feed ;(
i also have Sea Veggies green seaweed which hes not to crazy about.

Scouter Steve · 03-04-2008, 11:43 PM

Stop feeding the brine and move on to mysis. Brine is candy, little nutritional value.

lcstorc · 03-05-2008, 12:00 AM

First IMO the earlier post was in bad taste to say the least but that is only my perception. If the person you were saying it too took it as a joke then it would be perfectly logical.
Now for stuff that matters
You need to get him to start eating nori and to eat other frozen prepared foods. Almost anything is better than brine. Mysis is a good option but there are many others. I feed a mush that has many commercial fish food as well as fresh seafood. Before that I just had various cubes in the freezer and picked a package each day for variety.
You want to get him to start eating nori. If he won't take it on the clip try putting it around a rock so the fish sees it more like food. Also there are many types of nori and my tangs certainly react differently with the different colors and brands,

Woodstock · 03-05-2008, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

First IMO the earlier post was in bad taste to say the least but that is only my perception. If the person you were saying it too took it as a joke then it would be perfectly logical.
Now for stuff that matters
You need to get him to start eating nori and to eat other frozen prepared foods. Almost anything is better than brine. Mysis is a good option but there are many others. I feed a mush that has many commercial fish food as well as fresh seafood. Before that I just had various cubes in the freezer and picked a package each day for variety.
You want to get him to start eating nori. If he won't take it on the clip try putting it around a rock so the fish sees it more like food. Also there are many types of nori and my tangs certainly react differently with the different colors and brands,

Agreed 100%.

As far as the 'white balls' growing on him, it could be lymphocysts or a fungal infection. Can you clean the glass and take another photo showing the white area better?

prow · 03-05-2008, 09:13 PM

IMO, no matter if its a viral, bacteria or fungal infection i would treat the same. most likely it was brought on by stress and poor water conditions. either your tank or more likey "shipping bag" or LFS tank. becaue it is only on the fins and not effecting the gills, mouth or swimming ability, also because the tang is eating, i would only treat with a good diet(vit/garlic soaked nutritious foods) and good water conditions-stable ph swings included. you could also lower the temp in the tank for a week or so to 76ish which decreases metobolic rates, thus, decreases O2 demands which aids in alieviating stress issues. of course slowly increase to normal levels after.

you could also lower the salinity some, to the lower end of acceptable. this will help with osmotic balances. excessive stress often results in fish becoming unalbe to maintain their osmolarity, thus, they lose fluids and electrolytes via osmatic pressures. a lower salinity will help them recover their osmotic balance. the stress and loss of osmolarity is most likely why your tang looks so slim, his dehydrated, that and not being feed so good along the way to your tank did not help. it basically helps the fish return to homeostasis.

the only reason i say no to other treaments, is becaues the medication would probably do more harm than good, right now for this fish. medication is hard on the fishs system and increases O2 demands aswell as increases metbolic rates to start with. the fish ends up using what little resourses it has to metabolize the medication, but in its weaken state no real healing or recovery going on (bug dead but fish too weak to recover now). with this fish being dehydrated and its osmolarity being off already, IMO, its best to focus on returning it back to homeostasis and reducing stressors at this time.

leebca · 03-06-2008, 07:38 AM

Picture isn't clear enough and I would prefer to see the condition through a clean/clear tank sidewall, a little closer. From what is shown, Lymphocystis is indicated.

No known cure if it is Lymphocystis, but I’ve known the Neon Blue Goby (Elacatinus oceanops) to actually eat it off of some fishes. This is rarely fatal IF the aquarist takes positive action. This is a virus and usually hangs around the fish. Fishes that are weak or not getting the proper nutrition or are under considerable stress (or a combo of these) usually get this infection.

As Prow previously mentioned, this is a way-too-thin Tang. Review its diet and start providing enough of the right kinds of foods. Please read through this post:
Feeding Marine Fish and Marine Fish Nutrition

Ask if you have questions.

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Necsones Tunicate Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: white things on tang hehe yeah thats on the glass.. i thought he was a lil slim myself, hes been picking away at all the algea on the glass and rocks all the time, gos nuts for forzen brine shrimp.. i feed it 2 times a day, when it thores out looks about 20or so lil brine shrimps.. im scared to over feed and scared to under feed ;( i also have Sea Veggies green seaweed which hes not to crazy about.

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Scouter Steve Neon dottyback Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somers Wisconsin (Kenosha County) Posts: 683 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: white things on tang Stop feeding the brine and move on to mysis. Brine is candy, little nutritional value.

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,003 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: white things on tang First IMO the earlier post was in bad taste to say the least but that is only my perception. If the person you were saying it too took it as a joke then it would be perfectly logical. Now for stuff that matters You need to get him to start eating nori and to eat other frozen prepared foods. Almost anything is better than brine. Mysis is a good option but there are many others. I feed a mush that has many commercial fish food as well as fresh seafood. Before that I just had various cubes in the freezer and picked a package each day for variety. You want to get him to start eating nori. If he won't take it on the clip try putting it around a rock so the fish sees it more like food. Also there are many types of nori and my tangs certainly react differently with the different colors and brands, __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

03-05-2008, 09:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
prow Manta Ray Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3,976 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: white things on tang IMO, no matter if its a viral, bacteria or fungal infection i would treat the same. most likely it was brought on by stress and poor water conditions. either your tank or more likey "shipping bag" or LFS tank. becaue it is only on the fins and not effecting the gills, mouth or swimming ability, also because the tang is eating, i would only treat with a good diet(vit/garlic soaked nutritious foods) and good water conditions-stable ph swings included. you could also lower the temp in the tank for a week or so to 76ish which decreases metobolic rates, thus, decreases O2 demands which aids in alieviating stress issues. of course slowly increase to normal levels after. you could also lower the salinity some, to the lower end of acceptable. this will help with osmotic balances. excessive stress often results in fish becoming unalbe to maintain their osmolarity, thus, they lose fluids and electrolytes via osmatic pressures. a lower salinity will help them recover their osmotic balance. the stress and loss of osmolarity is most likely why your tang looks so slim, his dehydrated, that and not being feed so good along the way to your tank did not help. it basically helps the fish return to homeostasis. the only reason i say no to other treaments, is becaues the medication would probably do more harm than good, right now for this fish. medication is hard on the fishs system and increases O2 demands aswell as increases metbolic rates to start with. the fish ends up using what little resourses it has to metabolize the medication, but in its weaken state no real healing or recovery going on (bug dead but fish too weak to recover now). with this fish being dehydrated and its osmolarity being off already, IMO, its best to focus on returning it back to homeostasis and reducing stressors at this time. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

03-06-2008, 07:38 AM	#22 (permalink)
leebca Sea Pen Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: So CA Posts: 343 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: white things on tang Picture isn't clear enough and I would prefer to see the condition through a clean/clear tank sidewall, a little closer. From what is shown, Lymphocystis is indicated. No known cure if it is Lymphocystis, but I’ve known the Neon Blue Goby (Elacatinus oceanops) to actually eat it off of some fishes. This is rarely fatal IF the aquarist takes positive action. This is a virus and usually hangs around the fish. Fishes that are weak or not getting the proper nutrition or are under considerable stress (or a combo of these) usually get this infection. As Prow previously mentioned, this is a way-too-thin Tang. Review its diet and start providing enough of the right kinds of foods. Please read through this post: Feeding Marine Fish and Marine Fish Nutrition Ask if you have questions. __________________ LEE

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