help help naso is dying,,,,,,

[markm3]

i really dont know whats happen i went to sleep and morning like that ,,,,,,,,,its 3 month in my tank never happen before , please tell me whats this larg black spots ,and her stomack look thiner too ,,,breathing hardly quickly,,,,please help

[markm3]

Originally Posted by markm3

i really dont know whats happen i went to sleep and morning like that ,,,,,,,,,its 3 month in my tank never happen before , please tell me whats this larg black spots ,and her stomack look thiner too ,,,breathing hardly quickly,,,,please help

sorry but the side glass is no clean from algee

[PEMfish]

Is your QT ready?

[markm3]

almost ,,,what next ,, copper ?

[PEMfish]

Do you have a reef? Or are you planning one? If you goo reef anything that has been around cooper must go curbside.

[lcstorc]

As far as I know copper is only used to treat ich and this does not look like ich. Now the QT does sound like a good plan.
Do you have an anemone? It almost looks like it was badly stung by an anemone.
If it is breathing quickly I would try to get more air in the tank. An airstone would be good or even just pointing a power head at the surface to increase surface agitation.
You might also want to post something in the new illneses forum. Someone with more knowledge may pick up the thread more quickly there. Meanwhile I would read Leebeca's threads. She has a lot of good info there about disease and treatment as well as general fish health.

[markm3]

mine is marine I don't have any LR or corals live only anemone , never add copper to the main tank , i use it in my QT only with fish , does any body define this desise.....

[lcstorc]

So you do have an anemone?
I'm not at all sure what the treatment would be for that. I would think QT would be a good idea so you can isolate him and prevent futher damage if nothing else.
Feeding with garlic is a good idea as well. It boosts the immune system so the fish can better fight off infections etc. It's not a cure but it can't hurt.

[markm3]

i do have new one almost week rose , do y think so?

[markm3]

i do feeding twice a week natural galic and they love it

[lcstorc]

Well I am certainly not an expert but particularly if it is new that is what I suspect.
Unfortunately I have no idea what to do about it.
Try sending a PM to Woodstock and Leebeca and HMA. I think they are most likely to have a suggestion if they are around.

[markm3]

thanks for trying to help

[Woodstock]

Please clean the glass and take another photo if possible. I think the heavy breathing is seperate from the dark skin spots. The spots may be sting marks from the anemone but the fast breathing could be a number of different things...
What size tank is it?
Any other fish?
You mention QT, do you QT all new additions? If so, for how long?
Any new additions lately? If so, what?
Types of Filtration and flow?
What are you water parameters? amm,nitrites,nitrates, salinity, temp
Is the tang showing any other signs of disease? white spots? scratching?
You mention you've had the tang for 3 months; Did it just recently start breathing rapidly?

[leebca]

Do not treat this fish with any copper product.

Until we get more information, move the fish to a quarantine tank and help build up its outer coating using a product like Pro Tech Coat Marine or StressGuard. Just follow the directions on the product.

For the most part, a Tang will keep its distance from an Anemone. It may have been startled or chased into the Anemone by accident. Having the information that Woodstock has requested will be useful.

Still, those blotches are not likely Anemone stings. List what else is in the aquarium.

You say the fish is breathing fast. Tell me exactly/approximately how fast. Count the 'breaths' the fish takes in 15 seconds. Do this several times and take the average and report to us that number of breaths in 15 seconds.

If you are not using live rock, then what is that we are seeing in the photo? What kind of decorations are you using?

Are you putting anything into the water, like additives or supplements? What kind of source water (the water you use to make up new saltwater, or are you using natural sea water) are you using?

Lastly, I would like to know what the fish has been eating. What do you feed the fish? How often do you feed the fish?

[markm3]

Originally Posted by leebca

Do not treat this fish with any copper product.

Until we get more information, move the fish to a quarantine tank and help build up its outer coating using a product like Pro Tech Coat Marine or StressGuard. Just follow the directions on the product.

For the most part, a Tang will keep its distance from an Anemone. It may have been startled or chased into the Anemone by accident. Having the information that Woodstock has requested will be useful.

Still, those blotches are not likely Anemone stings. List what else is in the aquarium.

You say the fish is breathing fast. Tell me exactly/approximately how fast. Count the 'breaths' the fish takes in 15 seconds. Do this several times and take the average and report to us that number of breaths in 15 seconds.

If you are not using live rock, then what is that we are seeing in the photo? What kind of decorations are you using?

Are you putting anything into the water, like additives or supplements? What kind of source water (the water you use to make up new saltwater, or are you using natural sea water) are you using?

Lastly, I would like to know what the fish has been eating. What do you feed the fish? How often do you feed the fish?

first thank you for caring for replying ,,oky after not beeing sure wahts happen for my naso i decide to keep it in the main tank and watching it closly ..same day i post my thread i add a stone air for extra oxygen in the water and make the water flow more strong ,latter next day i found that the breathing of the naso became more slowly so it looks like she is recovering ,so i keep it in main tank and watched more ,she refuse to eat but she was liittle shy to show first time to hide ,so i keep watching the breathing and the black spots first 2 days they become bigger but then after breathing goes normal i found the black spots going gray ,so i thought they are hilling,,,and thats what happen,,,every day the spots going brights untill they vanished and she return to eat yesterday ,and this time i took my breath ,,sorry for not telling more details but hear what you ask for ,,,i have dead corals trreated ,,no LR....sand bed ,2 ehim bio filter one with bioballs,,,, 2 sea clone skimmer 150 .. i use tape water for mixing with salt i know its not good but i have no supplies here in egypt ,, UV 25 watt ...my mesurs saltinity 1.20-1.27....ph form 7.9 to 8.5 ....temp 25 c to 28 c..nitrite 0.2
nitrate 0.2 to 0.4
i add ph buffer to keep it stable .... i feed shrimp and dry food and naturel garlick ,,i can post video if you u need it
this all happen after i add the new rose anemone

thaks again waiting for the next reply