Brooklynella???

Woodstock · 01-11-2008, 09:44 AM

Last night I noticed my male clownfish breathing very rapidly.

After a few photos of him, I began to guess what was wrong (only a guess without a microscope) and came to the conclusion that he might have brooklynella parasite. Where on earth did it come from????? Gezzzz...

I decided to wait it out over night and inspect him this morning.

My concious woke me at 4:15 am and by 5:00 am the little clown was in a formalin dip.

He looked horrible! His color was faded and he was breathing very, very fast... Strangley enough the other clown looks perfect... go figure.

Here is is last night. He looked much worse than this by 4 am...

He looked much better after a 45 minute bath in formalin dip (1 tsp of 37% formalin in one gallon of water with an airstone).

When I had all of the fish in the QT for 8 weeks (just a few weeks ago), I never treated for brooklynella disease. I only used copper and parizaquantel (not formalin).

Questions:
1- does it look like brooklynella?
2- is brooklynella highly contagious? Can I expect my other fish to succumb to it eventually?
3- will a daily formalin dip cure the sick clown?
4- should I just bite the bullet and remove all fish to the hospital tank and begin treating with formalin?

framerguy · 01-11-2008, 09:57 AM

Geez Doni Marie, it never ends and I am so sorry! This question is above my pay grade and will let others answer, but wanted to offer moral support.

boozeman · 01-11-2008, 09:58 AM

Doni, If I'm not mistaken, the link you posted belongs to RS member charles1958...give him a pm and hopefully he will chime in on this.

kathywithbirds · 01-11-2008, 10:07 AM

Doni, I'm so sorry! After some consideration and consultation with other people, I think that's what got my guys. I lost 3 clowns in a week. Hope yours get better... it seems treatable.

lcstorc · 01-11-2008, 10:48 AM

Will it never end? I feel horrible for you and your fishies. I wish I could help but all I can do is offer support since this is way over my head as well.
Hope the clown gets better and noboby else gets sick.
You are the world's best fish mommy. You really go the extra mile to take care of your babies.

BigReepher · 01-11-2008, 11:03 AM

It does appear to be brook, it is highly contagious amongst clownfish. Formalin has been known to work and I've used it successfully. I would probably try to catch any other clowns and give them a dip. Check water parameters and make any changes slowly. The formalin dip should be done as carefully as possible to keep stress to a minimum. Keep in mind that the formalin will reduce oxygen levels as will higher water temps so don't use a dip with a temp over 79. Good luck!

panmanmatt · 01-11-2008, 11:16 AM

If using Formalin, you should always aerate the heck out of the water no matter what temperature it is at. Formalin depletes O2 in the water.

boozeman · 01-11-2008, 11:35 AM

Clownfish Disease - Brooklynella Diagnosis and Treatment

Doot77 · 01-11-2008, 01:42 PM

Sorry to hear about this Doni. You're 8 week quarantine you just finished is what pushed me towards doing the same. Hopefully all turns out good for you and your fish.

boozeman · 01-11-2008, 01:53 PM

Brooklyn.... fuggedaboudit !!!
NY1: Brooklyn

Woodstock · 01-11-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doot77

Sorry to hear about this Doni. You're 8 week quarantine you just finished is what pushed me towards doing the same. Hopefully all turns out good for you and your fish.

Good for you. Looks like I may be repeating another 8 week QT with them but will add on another 2 weeks I think... I wish I would have treated them with formalin the first time around.

Woodstock · 01-11-2008, 01:59 PM

I went home at lunch and he (and all the other fish) are doing okay. All eating like piglets. But the ahcilles looks like he has more white spots on him ...

lcstorc · 01-11-2008, 02:46 PM

Very glad to hear the clown is looking better. Sounds like maybe you got it in time. Very odd how quickly it hit though. I know you and your fish and I am sure it wasn't like that very long at all before you noticed.
Sorry to hear Dr Pepper has more spots. As long as he is still a piggy I guess you shouldn't worry too much.

01-11-2008, 09:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,553 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Brooklynella??? Last night I noticed my male clownfish breathing very rapidly. After a few photos of him, I began to guess what was wrong (only a guess without a microscope) and came to the conclusion that he might have brooklynella parasite. Where on earth did it come from????? Gezzzz... I decided to wait it out over night and inspect him this morning. My concious woke me at 4:15 am and by 5:00 am the little clown was in a formalin dip. He looked horrible! His color was faded and he was breathing very, very fast... Strangley enough the other clown looks perfect... go figure. Here is is last night. He looked much worse than this by 4 am... He looked much better after a 45 minute bath in formalin dip (1 tsp of 37% formalin in one gallon of water with an airstone). When I had all of the fish in the QT for 8 weeks (just a few weeks ago), I never treated for brooklynella disease. I only used copper and parizaquantel (not formalin). Questions: 1- does it look like brooklynella? 2- is brooklynella highly contagious? Can I expect my other fish to succumb to it eventually? 3- will a daily formalin dip cure the sick clown? 4- should I just bite the bullet and remove all fish to the hospital tank and begin treating with formalin?

01-11-2008, 09:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,264 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brooklynella??? Geez Doni Marie, it never ends and I am so sorry! This question is above my pay grade and will let others answer, but wanted to offer moral support. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

01-11-2008, 09:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brooklynella??? Doni, If I'm not mistaken, the link you posted belongs to RS member charles1958...give him a pm and hopefully he will chime in on this. __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

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kathywithbirds Social Darwinism victim Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Hood, NJ Posts: 5,695 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Brooklynella??? Doni, I'm so sorry! After some consideration and consultation with other people, I think that's what got my guys. I lost 3 clowns in a week. Hope yours get better... it seems treatable. __________________ (\ /) This is Bunny crying. ( ; ; ) He thinks Brainy and Bunnina . ' ' ...are having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang Start: 163.5 Current: I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale...

01-11-2008, 10:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 17,965 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brooklynella??? Will it never end? I feel horrible for you and your fishies. I wish I could help but all I can do is offer support since this is way over my head as well. Hope the clown gets better and noboby else gets sick. You are the world's best fish mommy. You really go the extra mile to take care of your babies. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

01-11-2008, 11:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
BigReepher Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 474 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Brooklynella??? It does appear to be brook, it is highly contagious amongst clownfish. Formalin has been known to work and I've used it successfully. I would probably try to catch any other clowns and give them a dip. Check water parameters and make any changes slowly. The formalin dip should be done as carefully as possible to keep stress to a minimum. Keep in mind that the formalin will reduce oxygen levels as will higher water temps so don't use a dip with a temp over 79. Good luck! __________________ I'm not a doctor but I'll take a look.

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panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,858 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Brooklynella??? If using Formalin, you should always aerate the heck out of the water no matter what temperature it is at. Formalin depletes O2 in the water. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-11-2008, 11:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brooklynella??? Clownfish Disease - Brooklynella Diagnosis and Treatment __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

01-11-2008, 01:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Doot77 Scopas Tang Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL Posts: 467 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brooklynella??? Sorry to hear about this Doni. You're 8 week quarantine you just finished is what pushed me towards doing the same. Hopefully all turns out good for you and your fish. __________________ Matt ________________________________ 110 Gallon Oceanic with dual corner overflows and 40 gal Oceanic 150 Sump Livestock : - 1 Mystery Wrasse, 1 Fairy Wrasse, 1 Royal Gramma, 1 Diamond Watchman Goby, 2 Turbo Snails, 6 Nassarius Snails, 1 Fighting Conch, 6 Dwarf Blue Legged Crabs & 6 Dwarf Zebra Crabs, 3 Emerald Crabs, 1 Purple Reef Lobster, 1 Skunk Cleaner Shrimp, 1 Red Sea Star, 1 Brittle Star, 1 Sand Sifting Star Fish 20 gal Quarantine tank Doot's Reef Chronicle

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boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brooklynella??? Brooklyn.... fuggedaboudit !!! NY1: Brooklyn __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

01-11-2008, 01:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,553 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brooklynella??? I went home at lunch and he (and all the other fish) are doing okay. All eating like piglets. But the ahcilles looks like he has more white spots on him ... __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

01-11-2008, 02:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 17,965 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brooklynella??? Very glad to hear the clown is looking better. Sounds like maybe you got it in time. Very odd how quickly it hit though. I know you and your fish and I am sure it wasn't like that very long at all before you noticed. Sorry to hear Dr Pepper has more spots. As long as he is still a piggy I guess you shouldn't worry too much. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

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