Ich/Quarantine ?'s - Page 2

Doot77 · 11-07-2007, 01:37 PM

So is the Salinity way the better way to go?

lcstorc · 11-07-2007, 01:46 PM

I have heard that hyposalinity is much less stressful on the fish but I am just repeating what others have said.

leebca · 11-07-2007, 01:58 PM

The Goby should have been trained to eat prepared foods, in addition to its normal sand sifting consumption. If it hasn't been so trained, then you set up a QT with a silica sand bed in it or a deep dish of silica sand in it. Before you do the full setup, you might try to see if you can get the fish to eat prepared foods. If not, then put in the deep dish.

Silica sand is the least interfering with copper, medications, and treatments, as opposed to carbonate-based sand. However, some silica sands are contaminated by carbonates. You want to use a pure silica product.

All marine fishes can be accommodated for quarantine/hospital treatments.

Dropping some acid (vinegar) onto pure silica sand will not have any reaction. Sand with carbonates will react to the acid.

Good luck!

leebca · 11-07-2007, 02:00 PM

Regarding other questions Matt, I'd suggest you read: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ths-facts.html

There are stickies here for both copper and hyposalinity information.

Doot77 · 11-07-2007, 02:12 PM

Thanks for the info Lee, I have read your thread on MI a couple times. As for the goby eating other food, I've noticed that he will sometimes go for food floating around but it seems like it just goes right thru his gills and floats away.

mps9506 · 11-07-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodstock

Mike - That must be a myth. I've seen both silica and aragnonite and my eyes could not tell the difference. I always do the 'vinegar test' to determine that.

Just wondering. I actually used to use silica sand as a DSB and had no issues. But I just recall being blasted for that because silica on the microscopic level isn't the right shape for sand sifting animals compared to aragonite.
I have seen slides of both under a microscope and if I recall correctly the silica was more angular and boxed shape under the scope and aragonite was "softer" shaped, more rounded...
I don't know if it really effects the animals though. My Tiger Tail cuke didn't mind it.
Regardless this is spewing out of my mouth, the bare bottom advocate

If it needs sand I probably won't ever own it.....

11-07-2007, 01:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
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11-07-2007, 01:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 19,905 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ich/Quarantine ?'s I have heard that hyposalinity is much less stressful on the fish but I am just repeating what others have said. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

11-07-2007, 01:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
leebca Sea Pen Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: So CA Posts: 341 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ich/Quarantine ?'s The Goby should have been trained to eat prepared foods, in addition to its normal sand sifting consumption. If it hasn't been so trained, then you set up a QT with a silica sand bed in it or a deep dish of silica sand in it. Before you do the full setup, you might try to see if you can get the fish to eat prepared foods. If not, then put in the deep dish. Silica sand is the least interfering with copper, medications, and treatments, as opposed to carbonate-based sand. However, some silica sands are contaminated by carbonates. You want to use a pure silica product. All marine fishes can be accommodated for quarantine/hospital treatments. Dropping some acid (vinegar) onto pure silica sand will not have any reaction. Sand with carbonates will react to the acid. Good luck! __________________ LEE

11-07-2007, 02:00 PM	#19 (permalink)
leebca Sea Pen Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: So CA Posts: 341 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ich/Quarantine ?'s Regarding other questions Matt, I'd suggest you read: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ths-facts.html There are stickies here for both copper and hyposalinity information. __________________ LEE

11-07-2007, 02:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
Doot77 Scopas Tang Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL Posts: 467 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ich/Quarantine ?'s Thanks for the info Lee, I have read your thread on MI a couple times. As for the goby eating other food, I've noticed that he will sometimes go for food floating around but it seems like it just goes right thru his gills and floats away. __________________ Matt ________________________________ 110 Gallon Oceanic with dual corner overflows and 40 gal Oceanic 150 Sump Livestock : - 1 Mystery Wrasse, 1 Fairy Wrasse, 1 Royal Gramma, 1 Diamond Watchman Goby, 2 Turbo Snails, 6 Nassarius Snails, 1 Fighting Conch, 6 Dwarf Blue Legged Crabs & 6 Dwarf Zebra Crabs, 3 Emerald Crabs, 1 Purple Reef Lobster, 1 Skunk Cleaner Shrimp, 1 Red Sea Star, 1 Brittle Star, 1 Sand Sifting Star Fish 20 gal Quarantine tank Doot's Reef Chronicle

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