ICH on my Achilles

Woodstock · 10-08-2007, 01:08 PM

I am in the process of preparing to remove all of my fish from my 120 gal reef and treat them for ICH in a hospital tank. My hospital tank is into its second week cycling and I am ordering all of the necessary medicines, kits, supplies that I will need.

Because I was very limited to the size of hospital tank I could fit into my home, I chose a 30" long, 29 gallon and have added a large 32 gal Brute trash can as a temporary sump. The total water volume with the sump is approximately 55 gallons.

I have sold 5 of my fish

in order to get down to only 8. These 8 fish are: 4" Achilles, 3.5" Copperband, 2 x 1" neon gobies, 1.5" citron goby, 1" damsel; giving me a total of 12" of fat fish.

I plan on fw dipping each one prior to placing them into the hospital tank and then treat with cupramine and later deworming them.

Any recommendations to this plan?

kimoy · 10-08-2007, 01:25 PM

i would over feed them and let it run. JMO

Woodstock · 10-08-2007, 01:50 PM

Well, that is what I have been doing for years now and although I have never lost a fish to it, I am ready to rid my reef of it for good and begin using a QT for ALL new additions.

billyr98 · 10-08-2007, 03:34 PM

good luck doni, i will be following along, since this is the way to go!! i wish everyone would do it.. but its the whole time factor thing..

If anyone will show a good process of how to treat, it will be you in the end..

Frankie · 10-08-2007, 03:51 PM

It seems like a lot of work Doni. I was able to rid my system of ich with Metronidazole last spring with ease and have not had a relapse since. Using that and running my UV 24/7 I feel safe to say after 6 months that my tank is pretty clear of this parasite.

sasquatch · 10-08-2007, 04:02 PM

Woody? would putting a uv on the qt quicken the process, and is there a definitive way to tell when its finished?

Woodstock · 10-08-2007, 04:39 PM

Can't use an UV with most medications, but it would help reduce numbers. When my achilles has been spot free for 3-4 weeks, I will know they are gone!

leebca · 10-08-2007, 05:46 PM

I would not recommend performing the dip.

It isn't the volume of water the fish need during the treatment, it is the size of space they need. In the case of the Tang, it will be sorely cramped in a QT less than a 29 alone. So, for the sake of this one fish, this is not a very good plan. Maybe you could put the Tang in the sump? or the other fish in the sump and the Tang, alone, in the 25.

I'm posting three more stickies regarding Marine Ich, Copper treatments, and hyposalinity treatments, today.

Woodstock · 10-08-2007, 09:50 PM

Okay, Thanks

Woodstock · 10-10-2007, 02:11 PM

Update: The QT is 30"/29 gallons.

10-08-2007, 01:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,862 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	ICH on my Achilles I am in the process of preparing to remove all of my fish from my 120 gal reef and treat them for ICH in a hospital tank. My hospital tank is into its second week cycling and I am ordering all of the necessary medicines, kits, supplies that I will need. Because I was very limited to the size of hospital tank I could fit into my home, I chose a 30" long, 29 gallon and have added a large 32 gal Brute trash can as a temporary sump. The total water volume with the sump is approximately 55 gallons. I have sold 5 of my fish in order to get down to only 8. These 8 fish are: 4" Achilles, 3.5" Copperband, 2 x 1" neon gobies, 1.5" citron goby, 1" damsel; giving me a total of 12" of fat fish. I plan on fw dipping each one prior to placing them into the hospital tank and then treat with cupramine and later deworming them. Any recommendations to this plan? __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return Last edited by Woodstock : 10-10-2007 at 02:11 PM. Reason: QT is 30" (29 gallons) NOT 25 gallons

10-08-2007, 01:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
kimoy Sea Pen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 338 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ICH on my Achilles i would over feed them and let it run. JMO __________________ 1.20 G pico RR with 2 megaflow kits, aqua c EV180 with mag12, 2x250 DE 12k halides with 2x54 T5 actinic+, 30G phlenum fuge with chaeto, iwaki 55rlt return pump connected to a sea swirl, 4 tunze 6025 inside the main tank for water circulation (2 are modded) 3 Koralias PH(2 #4's and 1 #3) sps,lps,zoas,softies,pink tip BTA tangs - yellow, unicorn, blue hippo, palini and RS Purple Blue Spot Jaw Fish red lyretail anthias pair of spotted mandarin goby wrasse - yellow corris scribble rabbit fish Clown Fish -3 percula high fin shrimp goby clean up crew - various snails and crabs, red linkia star And a 30G AGA softies with clown & diamond head goby

10-08-2007, 01:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,862 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ICH on my Achilles Well, that is what I have been doing for years now and although I have never lost a fish to it, I am ready to rid my reef of it for good and begin using a QT for ALL new additions. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

10-08-2007, 03:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
billyr98 Reefing Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 5,400 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ICH on my Achilles good luck doni, i will be following along, since this is the way to go!! i wish everyone would do it.. but its the whole time factor thing.. If anyone will show a good process of how to treat, it will be you in the end.. __________________ Billyr98 -=NJRC Treasurer=- My 450g Reef Tank ~~~ Its HERE!!!

10-08-2007, 03:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 7,139 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ICH on my Achilles It seems like a lot of work Doni. I was able to rid my system of ich with Metronidazole last spring with ease and have not had a relapse since. Using that and running my UV 24/7 I feel safe to say after 6 months that my tank is pretty clear of this parasite. __________________ Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

10-08-2007, 04:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ICH on my Achilles Woody? would putting a uv on the qt quicken the process, and is there a definitive way to tell when its finished?

10-08-2007, 04:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,862 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ICH on my Achilles Can't use an UV with most medications, but it would help reduce numbers. When my achilles has been spot free for 3-4 weeks, I will know they are gone! __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

10-08-2007, 05:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
leebca Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: So CA Posts: 299 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ICH on my Achilles I would not recommend performing the dip. It isn't the volume of water the fish need during the treatment, it is the size of space they need. In the case of the Tang, it will be sorely cramped in a QT less than a 29 alone. So, for the sake of this one fish, this is not a very good plan. Maybe you could put the Tang in the sump? or the other fish in the sump and the Tang, alone, in the 25. I'm posting three more stickies regarding Marine Ich, Copper treatments, and hyposalinity treatments, today. __________________ LEE

10-08-2007, 09:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,862 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ICH on my Achilles Okay, Thanks __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

10-10-2007, 02:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,862 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ICH on my Achilles Update: The QT is 30"/29 gallons. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

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