HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast - Page 4

Snelly40 · 07-20-2007, 02:42 PM

ok, how come?

i just dont know what to do , i feel like i'll heal the clown and then add her and she'll get sick again

Woodstock · 07-20-2007, 02:46 PM

Do not add formalin to your reef. I would keep her separate at least until she is better and eating well.... 4-6 weeks if possible. Keep an eye on your other fishes in the reef to make sure they are okay (remove them if necessary).
Are you testing the hospital/QT for ammonia & nitrites? Keep doing that daily so you remain aware any possible cycle.

Woodstock · 07-20-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snelly40

ok, how come?

Formalin is very harmful to inverts. You could kill/crash your reef.

Snelly40 · 07-20-2007, 02:55 PM

I see, thankx

bluespotjawfish · 07-20-2007, 06:04 PM

Snelly, I'm glad to hear she is hanging in there! Tough call on the reef tank man! I was in the exact same situation. I'd ask yourself this question:

What would you do if they all got sick? What if they started dying on you?

Think about it...and plan for it now! The price to set up a QT is less than the price of one new fish!

At least get yourself a sponge or some other media going in the display so if you do decide to remove the fish you will stand a chance. I had to react quickly when a few more of my fish came down with ich and fish were dying right and left. I found a 30 gallon breeder tank that worked great as a QT brand new for $60 (didn't have time to shop for a used one). It is 4 feet long so it has lots of space! (Ok, I had an overstocked 125 gallon tank and I also got a 50 gallon tank - same price.) I eventually took all my fish out, but lost them anyway to a cycling tank! Once they are all sick it will be too late to react.

Now that you have thought it through, I would also sit back and ask yourself if it could have been something besides ich that is easier to treat. Personally, I would get a QT and be prepared (for this or something else). I'd probably finish the treatment on your clown and put her back in the tank about 4 weeks after she is all better. Once reintroduced, I would watch for any illness after that (her or someone else). If the display is infected, she will most likely get reinfected because she will be under stress.

Wishin' you the best whatever you decide!

Snelly40 · 07-20-2007, 06:15 PM

i have her in a gallon jug at the moment and i am watching the water like a hawk. did a water change today on it , and added some live rock from my tank as well as bio-spira (sp) to add denitrifying bacteria!!!
i know this is small, but she still is not moving that much. But she does seem a lot more alert.

lcstorc · 07-20-2007, 08:44 PM

Do you have an airstone in there? If not I would add one. From what I have read increasing the oxygen helps them breathe better.

Snelly40 · 07-21-2007, 07:43 AM

sorry, its a 7 gallon jug, that last post made it look like a 1 ghallon jug.,
I do not have an airstone, but i have a maxijet 600 with venturi hooked up and a lot of water aggitation as well.
She is swimming freely now part of the time when i looked at her this morning. She sees me now and swims towards me, good sign

Woodstock · 07-21-2007, 07:47 AM

Excellent news!!

lcstorc · 07-21-2007, 08:01 AM

Ok water aggitation will help as well.
Glad she is up and swimming. That is a great sign.
Be careful with that small amount of water. You will likely need to do lots of water changes.

Snelly40 · 07-21-2007, 08:12 AM

i did a small wc yesterday and i added a pouch of bio-spira to help with the ammonia.
water aggitaion with the venturi going produces as much air bubbles as an air stone, if not more

kathywithbirds · 07-31-2007, 10:32 PM

how's she doing?

07-20-2007, 02:42 PM	#46 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,840 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast ok, how come? i just dont know what to do , i feel like i'll heal the clown and then add her and she'll get sick again __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society*

07-20-2007, 02:46 PM	#47 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,260 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast Do not add formalin to your reef. I would keep her separate at least until she is better and eating well.... 4-6 weeks if possible. Keep an eye on your other fishes in the reef to make sure they are okay (remove them if necessary). Are you testing the hospital/QT for ammonia & nitrites? Keep doing that daily so you remain aware any possible cycle. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My QT/Hospital Tank* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

07-20-2007, 02:55 PM	#49 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,840 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast I see, thankx __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society*

07-20-2007, 06:04 PM	#50 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,218 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast Snelly, I'm glad to hear she is hanging in there! Tough call on the reef tank man! I was in the exact same situation. I'd ask yourself this question: What would you do if they all got sick? What if they started dying on you? Think about it...and plan for it now! The price to set up a QT is less than the price of one new fish! At least get yourself a sponge or some other media going in the display so if you do decide to remove the fish you will stand a chance. I had to react quickly when a few more of my fish came down with ich and fish were dying right and left. I found a 30 gallon breeder tank that worked great as a QT brand new for $60 (didn't have time to shop for a used one). It is 4 feet long so it has lots of space! (Ok, I had an overstocked 125 gallon tank and I also got a 50 gallon tank - same price.) I eventually took all my fish out, but lost them anyway to a cycling tank! Once they are all sick it will be too late to react. Now that you have thought it through, I would also sit back and ask yourself if it could have been something besides ich that is easier to treat. Personally, I would get a QT and be prepared (for this or something else). I'd probably finish the treatment on your clown and put her back in the tank about 4 weeks after she is all better. Once reintroduced, I would watch for any illness after that (her or someone else). If the display is infected, she will most likely get reinfected because she will be under stress. Wishin' you the best whatever you decide! __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

07-20-2007, 06:15 PM	#51 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,840 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast i have her in a gallon jug at the moment and i am watching the water like a hawk. did a water change today on it , and added some live rock from my tank as well as bio-spira (sp) to add denitrifying bacteria!!! i know this is small, but she still is not moving that much. But she does seem a lot more alert. __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society*

07-20-2007, 08:44 PM	#52 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,003 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast Do you have an airstone in there? If not I would add one. From what I have read increasing the oxygen helps them breathe better. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

07-21-2007, 07:43 AM	#53 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,840 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast sorry, its a 7 gallon jug, that last post made it look like a 1 ghallon jug., I do not have an airstone, but i have a maxijet 600 with venturi hooked up and a lot of water aggitation as well. She is swimming freely now part of the time when i looked at her this morning. She sees me now and swims towards me, good sign __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society*

07-21-2007, 07:47 AM	#54 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,260 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast Excellent news!! __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My QT/Hospital Tank* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

07-21-2007, 08:01 AM	#55 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,003 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast Ok water aggitation will help as well. Glad she is up and swimming. That is a great sign. Be careful with that small amount of water. You will likely need to do lots of water changes. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

07-21-2007, 08:12 AM	#56 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,840 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HELP!!!! sick fish, please fast i did a small wc yesterday and i added a pouch of bio-spira to help with the ammonia. water aggitaion with the venturi going produces as much air bubbles as an air stone, if not more __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society*

07-31-2007, 10:32 PM	#57 (permalink)
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