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    Achilles Tang brian_e's Avatar
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    Need lighting help led

    I need some help with design for my tank build
    tank is 96lx48wx24d. I would like dimmable drivers
    Working on 550 gallon diy plywood tank

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    Re: Need lighting help led

    Rather than rehash, there are a lot of threads here like Matt's 220 adventure talking about adding multiple LEDs and dimming to tanks of various size. I dont have link to all of them but Here is Matt's. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nture-122.html
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    Nanocube 28G HQI with 150W MH, Current 1/10HP chiller, etc.
    This tank right now just has a couple snails, a neon cleaner goby, yellow watchman goby, fire goby, emerald crab, a few blue leg hermits and a galaxy coral.

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    Re: Need lighting help led

    Thanks for the help ro many pages for me ill just end up going back to mh when the people are talking about the led iam lost i just want simple answers u guys can close this post for me thanks
    Working on 550 gallon diy plywood tank

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    Re: Need lighting help led

    MH are great, but dont give up on LED. the bottom line is that with the MeanWell drivers that most LED units use (LEDs use drivers, not ballasts, but same principle in a way) and you can have dimming capability and they use far less energy and last far longer, I would still look into them. In Matts thread it was a bit of uncharted territory since he is using a very high end controller and some very cool lights and had to be sorted out how to plug what into what since it was the 1st time being done, but definately doable and in the long run cheaper IMO. Now the process is pretty straight forward.
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    RSM 130D, stock except for replaced carbon with chemi-pure elite and purigen. Tunze 3155 ATO unit, 2x hydor 750GPH pumps in tank with a Hydor wave controller. Livestock: 1 Green Mandarin, 1 yellow line goby, 2 ocelarious clowns, 7 heads of frogspawn, 1 emerald crab, 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 Skunk Scarlet cleaner shrimp, PomPom Xenia, Silvertip Xenia, Duncan coral, Purple Nurple, Magician Zoas,misc other Palys/Zoas. 40lbs of LR, ~20 lbs of aragonite. Some hitchhikers: Mushrooms. purple with blue highlight bumps, added a neon green shroom the other day and what appears to be a small clam or something.
    Nanocube 28G HQI with 150W MH, Current 1/10HP chiller, etc.
    This tank right now just has a couple snails, a neon cleaner goby, yellow watchman goby, fire goby, emerald crab, a few blue leg hermits and a galaxy coral.

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    Re: Need lighting help led

    Brian if you go to one of the Big Hitter LED suppliers they have forms and such to take a lot of the guess work out of this concept. They've spent countless house (and dollars) in figuring these out so you don't have to re-invent the wheel.

    Depending on what you want, where you're located you can try ReefLEDlights.com or Modular LED

    They can more accurately help you get narrowed down what you need.

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    Re: Need lighting help led

    Of course my links are if you want to do the majority of the build yourself and do it from a KIT. I should have made that clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setragni View Post
    Having a reef tank is more about keeping water than fish or corals.
    Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change.

    Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!

    Big Al's 10g....Retired BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle.... Retired

    Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef....

    2013 LED Upgrade from StevesLED for the NanoCube 12g

    and the latest member of my WET family is . . .
    BigAl's Mountain Reef RSM 130D - 2/2011

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    Re: Need lighting help led

    It used to be the only way you could really get a decent LED setup over your tank was DIY.. that is not the case anymore. I would actually be as bold as to say that you would be better off buying a few Radions or AI Sols instead of DIYing it all. With these fixtures, you get the added bonus of having a light that works with controllers.

    I've done the DIY thing and it's definitely rewarding, but when you factor in time spent, cost of materials, and headaches trying to fix problems that come up, I don't think it's worth it to DIY anymore.

    Oh, and if the cost of the ready built LEDs is a turn you off, factor in 10 years of replacing MH bulbs every 6-12 months. Most of the time you'll break even with that alone, not even counting the electricity savings (efficiency, no chiller needed, etc).
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    Re: Need lighting help led

    Diy all the way i have a friend that is going to wire it all just we are having the problem of how many leds its going to take to light a tank that size for sps and what drivers would be best to run them and i agree much cheaper in the long run with power and bills but tht money is over time spent all the kits i see are for at most a 180 gallon and are still $1300 for a diy ready kit
    Working on 550 gallon diy plywood tank

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    Re: Need lighting help led

    Well, the number of LEDs depends. If you want to mimic the pendant style lighting that most popular fixtures are taking now, you will need around 24 LEDs to light a 24"x24" area. The Meanwells are better as they are power supply/driver in one. The amount of LEDs you can run on one Meanwell varies by model.. you really have to choose what suits your needs best. It's going to make coordinating the dimming difficult if you go with the pendant style design, as you likely won't get a nice even number of LEDs on one Meanwell. The dimming can also be problematic, as there isn't just a simple knob you can turn with the Meanwells, but I'm sure you can find guides on how to design your own circuit. If you want to go the route of covering the entire tank, you will need a single LED every 1.5"-2".

    I was all for the DIY as well as recently as a year and a half ago, but it's not as practical now. With the DIY route you really have to be somewhat of an electrician as well as an experienced aquarists because you have to know what exactly are the benefits and reasons you would go with a Meanwell over a 24v power supply and some Buckpucks, just to list one example. I strongly recommend one of the many ready-made fixtures. If this is not something you're willing to do, you should start reading up over on Nano-reef.com's lighting section. They have tons of DIY builds over there with various levels of documentation.
    "Our reef and fish-only aquariums are NOT miniature slices of the ocean. They may look that way, but bio-chemically they are an ecosystem that is always on the verge of collapse." -Joe Jaworski

    DIY LED Fixture for my 2.5g Pico, DIY LED Retro for BigAl07's Nanocube 12

    Make your own ATO for around $10! (give or take )

    Happy reefing!

    -Patrick

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    Re: Need lighting help led

    give them a shout over at ReefLEDlights.com and see what they can do for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setragni View Post
    Having a reef tank is more about keeping water than fish or corals.
    Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change.

    Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!

    Big Al's 10g....Retired BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle.... Retired

    Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef....

    2013 LED Upgrade from StevesLED for the NanoCube 12g

    and the latest member of my WET family is . . .
    BigAl's Mountain Reef RSM 130D - 2/2011

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