My new Sump Room

Sweet Reef · 04-21-2008, 09:02 PM

First I have to give wome credit where credit is due...This is all becuase of the day I signed on and spotted tbittners thread on his basement set up...Thanks for everything Terry!

Well...after about 3 weeks of planning, cutting, building walls, gluing PVC, routing a couple 20 amp GFI electrical plugs and lots of plumbing, Ive finished building my 12 x 12 sump room to feed my 120g DT directly above in my dining room. I started off by purchasing 2 Rubbermaid 100g stock tanks. One being a sump the other being a fuge which are raised about 2ft off the floor. I then went with a Reeflo Sequence Barricuda for a return pump. This puts out great flow at almost 12ft of head. I actually have it valved back about halfway, which is what I wanted so that I could always tap into the system for future frag tanks (which is coming next). In total I have went from about 135g of water to almost 300g.

Input and Return Line to the Barricuda return pump

After getting the new drain line plumbed in and starting up the sytem I soon found that I had to increase the drain line pipe dia to 2". I originally had 1.5" pipe all the way down with a hard 90 plumbed in..this caused some flow issues along with some unwanted noise so I removed it and went with 2 45's instead along with rerouting the drain to smooth out the flow. In the sump I run a 100 micron filter sock, My ER 6-2 skimmer, 300w heater along with a Mag 5 pump to keep it moving & a Tunze Osmolator ATO with my new (temp) DIY Kalk reactor made from 3" PVC. Im actually having a sealing issues with the cap on this (can you believe it? lol) so Im going to rebuild it with 4" so I can use a standard 4" seal.

In my fuge I have a 5" sandbed and some cheato. I found some 120w T8 lights in the used section at LFS and the owner even gave me brand new free bulbs for it! I run them on a alternate 7hr lighting from the DT. I also picked up a used Korilla 4 to keep the Cheato tumbling along and added a 250w heater.

After getting the system all up and running I installed some insulation on the exterior walls, my RODI, water change bucket, a American DJ power control center (very nice to have), and a little shelving. I also just recently aquired some counter top from a family member so I ran hot and cold water over and installed a used $15 bar sink and a brand new $29 faucet & sprayer which has been the most awsome thing to have in this room! Oh...and a baby monitor that we still had...lol...well I gotta be able to hear it upstairs

So all in all..what used to look like this..

Now has turned into this..

Its all up and been running now about 2 weeks. Its been so nice to have the room to work in and to have everything in one place. The Cheato seems to be doing well and I can already see some good signs in the DT from doing all this. I still have a few small things to add like more shelving and a bit more light in time and I also am going to run another plug over around to the counter I think. But for now...Im very happy.

BTW...The floor inst wet in the pic...not sure why it shows up that way in the pic?

vdituri · 04-21-2008, 09:13 PM

WOW!
Nice work!
Nice setup!
Glad to see Terry's had a positive influence on somebody around here. lol

Look forward to future updates.

prow · 04-21-2008, 09:16 PM

sweet, great job. i am so jealous. wish i had the room for something like that. how are you planning on dealing with the moisture? might want to paint everyting with a oil based paint and add a good exhaust fan even add a to control it humidistat. also a dehumidifier would not hurt

Sweet Reef · 04-21-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by prow

sweet, great job. i am so jealous. wish i had the room for something like that. how are you planning on dealing with the moisture? might want to paint everyting with a oil based paint and add a good exhaust fan even add a to control it humidistat. also a dehumidifier would not hurt

Thanks!
Just picked up a big dehumidifier yesterday and the basement feels dry as a bone today. I do plan on adding a exhaust vent in time.

vdituri · 04-21-2008, 09:27 PM

What kind effect does that dehumidifier have on your evaporation rate?

tbittner · 04-21-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vdituri

WOW!
Nice work!
Nice setup!
Glad to see Terry's had a positive influence on somebody around here. lol

Look forward to future updates.

SA!!!

Everything looks so nice and clean. Now that you have this HUGE engine set up, when are you upgrading the 120 to something like a 450?

How do you do water changes?

vdituri · 04-21-2008, 09:30 PM

SHHHHHHHSSSHH!

Terry's here!

tbittner · 04-21-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Reef

Thanks!
Just picked up a big dehumidifier yesterday and the basement feels dry as a bone today. I do plan on adding a exhaust vent in time.

I thought about a dehumidifier but my wife loves the humidity it adds to the air. She insists on leaving it the way it is.

Sweet Reef · 04-21-2008, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdituri

What kind effect does that dehumidifier have on your evaporation rate?

I havent noticed any yet..the room has a door on it that Im keeping shut. The room isnt air tight by any means but I think it helps to have it closed off. I ran the dehumidifier constantly all night and all day today then set the humidity control on it to 60% and its turning itself off and on as needed now.

Sweet Reef · 04-21-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tbittner

SA!!!

Everything looks so nice and clean. Now that you have this HUGE engine set up, when are you upgrading the 120 to something like a 450?

How do you do water changes?

LOL...I WAS WAITING FOR THIS QUESTION TO COME ALONG!!

Actually, Ive already been shopping and got the go ahead from the better half. Im just sockin it away so I can pay cash for it..Im also planning on building my own stand for it...LFS wants $1200 ducks for it!!! I figure around $300 out the door for a nice one!

Water changes are done via the container next to the sump...I turn on the RODI valve to the brute which has its own heater, pump for stirring, and airstone. When the can is full I mix the salt and the next morning I do the WC. For draining..I have a line coming off the return (you can see the p-trap up near the ceiling in the one pic) that drains into my main line for the house. I just open the drain valve while watching the sump level. When it drains out 4" I shut off the valve and then plug in my WC pump in the brute can and fill the sump back up. Here is a pic I found...

vdituri · 04-21-2008, 09:39 PM

1200 ducks?
Thats alot of poultry!
Think of the mess. lol

Couldn't pass that up. lol

tbittner · 04-21-2008, 09:41 PM

LMAO!!!

Geez, they kind of jump right on typos around here, don't they...

prow · 04-21-2008, 09:46 PM

o yeah, around here typos are what legends are made of

Sweet Reef · 04-21-2008, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbittner

LMAO!!!

Geez, they kind of jump right on typos around here, don't they...

Theres just gotta be one

in every crowd...lol

Snelly40 · 04-21-2008, 09:50 PM

wow!!!!! looks great, exactly what i hope ot have in a nearby room someday soon, great great move!!!

04-21-2008, 09:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sweet Reef Fire Coral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 76 View Gallery Karma Komment	My new Sump Room First I have to give wome credit where credit is due...This is all becuase of the day I signed on and spotted tbittners thread on his basement set up...Thanks for everything Terry! Well...after about 3 weeks of planning, cutting, building walls, gluing PVC, routing a couple 20 amp GFI electrical plugs and lots of plumbing, Ive finished building my 12 x 12 sump room to feed my 120g DT directly above in my dining room. I started off by purchasing 2 Rubbermaid 100g stock tanks. One being a sump the other being a fuge which are raised about 2ft off the floor. I then went with a Reeflo Sequence Barricuda for a return pump. This puts out great flow at almost 12ft of head. I actually have it valved back about halfway, which is what I wanted so that I could always tap into the system for future frag tanks (which is coming next). In total I have went from about 135g of water to almost 300g. Input and Return Line to the Barricuda return pump After getting the new drain line plumbed in and starting up the sytem I soon found that I had to increase the drain line pipe dia to 2". I originally had 1.5" pipe all the way down with a hard 90 plumbed in..this caused some flow issues along with some unwanted noise so I removed it and went with 2 45's instead along with rerouting the drain to smooth out the flow. In the sump I run a 100 micron filter sock, My ER 6-2 skimmer, 300w heater along with a Mag 5 pump to keep it moving & a Tunze Osmolator ATO with my new (temp) DIY Kalk reactor made from 3" PVC. Im actually having a sealing issues with the cap on this (can you believe it? lol) so Im going to rebuild it with 4" so I can use a standard 4" seal. In my fuge I have a 5" sandbed and some cheato. I found some 120w T8 lights in the used section at LFS and the owner even gave me brand new free bulbs for it! I run them on a alternate 7hr lighting from the DT. I also picked up a used Korilla 4 to keep the Cheato tumbling along and added a 250w heater. After getting the system all up and running I installed some insulation on the exterior walls, my RODI, water change bucket, a American DJ power control center (very nice to have), and a little shelving. I also just recently aquired some counter top from a family member so I ran hot and cold water over and installed a used $15 bar sink and a brand new $29 faucet & sprayer which has been the most awsome thing to have in this room! Oh...and a baby monitor that we still had...lol...well I gotta be able to hear it upstairs So all in all..what used to look like this.. Now has turned into this.. Its all up and been running now about 2 weeks. Its been so nice to have the room to work in and to have everything in one place. The Cheato seems to be doing well and I can already see some good signs in the DT from doing all this. I still have a few small things to add like more shelving and a bit more light in time and I also am going to run another plug over around to the counter I think. But for now...Im very happy. BTW...The floor inst wet in the pic...not sure why it shows up that way in the pic? __________________ 120g, 100g sump, 100g fuge, Coralife 48" Aqua Pro Lights, ER CS6-2 skim, 3 port CLS w/ Mag18, Tunze Wavebox, 2 Tunze 6045, Tunze Osmolator W/ DIY Kalk top off, Sequence Barricuda return pump, 80lbs CS & 250lbs LR, Spectapure MaxCap RODI, Tropic Marin salt

04-21-2008, 09:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,641 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My new Sump Room WOW! Nice work! Nice setup! Glad to see Terry's had a positive influence on somebody around here. lol Look forward to future updates. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

04-21-2008, 09:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
prow Manta Ray Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3,854 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My new Sump Room sweet, great job. i am so jealous. wish i had the room for something like that. how are you planning on dealing with the moisture? might want to paint everyting with a oil based paint and add a good exhaust fan even add a to control it humidistat. also a dehumidifier would not hurt __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html

04-21-2008, 09:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,641 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My new Sump Room What kind effect does that dehumidifier have on your evaporation rate? __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

04-21-2008, 09:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,641 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My new Sump Room SHHHHHHHSSSHH! Terry's here! __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

04-21-2008, 09:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,641 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My new Sump Room 1200 ducks? Thats alot of poultry! Think of the mess. lol Couldn't pass that up. lol __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

04-21-2008, 09:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My new Sump Room LMAO!!! Geez, they kind of jump right on typos around here, don't they... __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

04-21-2008, 09:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
prow Manta Ray Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3,854 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My new Sump Room o yeah, around here typos are what legends are made of __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html

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Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,376 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: My new Sump Room wow!!!!! looks great, exactly what i hope ot have in a nearby room someday soon, great great move!!! __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society* In Hoc Signo Vinces

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