ASM Skimmer question - Page 2

BigAl07 · 03-09-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scouter Steve

Yes just from the bottom of the skimmer to the top of the water in that sump section. If you are not familiar with the ASM skimmer they are only in sump skimmers.

that's what I have now. An ASM G-2 in-sump. I just put it in there without regard to the water depth around it. hmmm now I'm wondering so I need to "elevate" it or something?

prow · 03-09-2008, 10:37 PM

what level is the water currently?

BigAl07 · 03-09-2008, 10:56 PM

My G-2 is running at 10 1/2" - 11" of water.

prow · 03-09-2008, 11:17 PM

sounds a little high but not much. what is the top of the hole in the skimmer body height from the bottom of the skimmer? if possible go 1-2" above that hole on the water level. i just got this from reading and finding recomended levels for this ASM or that ASM. there seems to be a pattern on where the best operating water level is, for whatever G, its a water level just above teh elbow. all my info comes from myself and others that have tried various water levels, no official word from any official authority on it. i just noticed a pattern that seems to be holding ture as far as hobbyist observations go.

corrado007 · 03-12-2008, 10:10 AM

According to this web site you should be operating it at a depth of 8" if I'm reading the chart correctly. Hope that helps.

prow · 03-12-2008, 10:37 AM

humm, cool site. but i dont buy all ASM models go in 8" of water. the euro reefs on that site all have "???" i would not trust that, at least not for the ASM's.

Scouter Steve · 03-12-2008, 10:51 AM

Never saw that page, interesting. I do doubt it's accuracy though. It lists the 4+ as 90 watts and the 4x as 50 watts. The 4+ uses a sedra 5000 while the 4x uses a sedra 9000. Could just be a typo.
As far as my experiment, It is early but I seem to get less skim with it in 9 inches versus the 13 I had!

prow · 03-12-2008, 11:12 AM

might need to tinker with the bubble level. maybe lower to half way up the first neck, dont know what that part is called.

Scouter Steve · 03-12-2008, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prow

might need to tinker with the bubble level. maybe lower to half way up the first neck, dont know what that part is called.

That changes from wet skim to dry. I know that fairly well with this skimmer. This whole question start from an article I scanned that talked about the air (lph maybe) for another needle wheel skimmer placed at different depths in the sump. Made me question whether the couple inches difference would see a huge change in skimate.

BigAl07 · 03-12-2008, 12:15 PM

I may try to "elevate" mine some this weekend to see if it makes a difference. I might do a "control" test.. clean it out this weekend and run it "as is" for a week or so and watch/measure it. Then clean it again, elevate it and re-do the test again and see what the difference is.

If yall will PM me and remind me I'll do that this weekend.

03-09-2008, 10:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,661 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ASM Skimmer question My G-2 is running at 10 1/2" - 11" of water. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

03-09-2008, 11:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,239 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ASM Skimmer question sounds a little high but not much. what is the top of the hole in the skimmer body height from the bottom of the skimmer? if possible go 1-2" above that hole on the water level. i just got this from reading and finding recomended levels for this ASM or that ASM. there seems to be a pattern on where the best operating water level is, for whatever G, its a water level just above teh elbow. all my info comes from myself and others that have tried various water levels, no official word from any official authority on it. i just noticed a pattern that seems to be holding ture as far as hobbyist observations go. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

03-12-2008, 10:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
corrado007 Plate Coral Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sacramento, Ca. Posts: 725 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ASM Skimmer question According to this web site you should be operating it at a depth of 8" if I'm reading the chart correctly. Hope that helps. __________________ Justin 90gal mixed reef w/40gal sump/fuge, ATO, NW-200 Skimmer, 2x 250W 10k Reeflux MH & 220W VHO actinics, Koralia #4 & #3, Mag 9.5 return, Aquacontroller jr., LR & LS, and community fish (Yellow Assessor, Orchid Dottyback, Yellow Watchman Goby, paired O clowns, Hippo Tang, 2 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse, Neon Goby, 1 Baby Chromis, a very small algae blenny, and a Zebra Dartfish. Note: These guys are all small to medium in size) updated 7/31/08 Here's my 90gal Chronicle (Lots of pictures and DIY)

03-12-2008, 10:37 AM	#21 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,239 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ASM Skimmer question humm, cool site. but i dont buy all ASM models go in 8" of water. the euro reefs on that site all have "???" i would not trust that, at least not for the ASM's. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

03-12-2008, 10:51 AM	#22 (permalink)
Scouter Steve Neon dottyback Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somers Wisconsin (Kenosha County) Posts: 683 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ASM Skimmer question Never saw that page, interesting. I do doubt it's accuracy though. It lists the 4+ as 90 watts and the 4x as 50 watts. The 4+ uses a sedra 5000 while the 4x uses a sedra 9000. Could just be a typo. As far as my experiment, It is early but I seem to get less skim with it in 9 inches versus the 13 I had!

03-12-2008, 11:12 AM	#23 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,239 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ASM Skimmer question might need to tinker with the bubble level. maybe lower to half way up the first neck, dont know what that part is called. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

03-12-2008, 12:15 PM	#25 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,661 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ASM Skimmer question I may try to "elevate" mine some this weekend to see if it makes a difference. I might do a "control" test.. clean it out this weekend and run it "as is" for a week or so and watch/measure it. Then clean it again, elevate it and re-do the test again and see what the difference is. If yall will PM me and remind me I'll do that this weekend. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

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