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NATIVEVAMAN · 03-19-2008, 07:00 PM

Lay the rods across the top of the tank hold them down with small pieces of duct tape and lay the screen across the top of them.

CMG · 03-20-2008, 02:12 AM

I hope I am not thread jacking but I dont think I should start a new thread jsut for this question and its kinda related. I am upgrading from PC (outer orbit 65watt) to T5 (current usa outer orbit pro). Do I need to acclimate using this screen method??

I have some mushrooms and some polyps and thats it. Thanks! Oh and if I thread jacked I can just ask the mods to erase this..

NATIVEVAMAN · 03-20-2008, 08:25 AM

I would recomend you do it.

TangMang232 · 03-20-2008, 01:13 PM

okay native, so im set with my 65 gallon. another question though:

I received a 60 gallon tank for free from petsmart, and i was thinkin of doing an sps only tank. Now i understand there are drawbacks due to the tank being 12-13 inches front to back, so not much room for aquascaping but ill get it to work lol. Anyways the question is, the DIY light 4 bulb 48" setup has a 660 ballast but it says that its HO, would this be VHO by any chance?? Heres a link:

https://diyreef.authsecure.com/shop/...0184141b2ce143

Also plans for 125 will start in june-august time. ill be sure to start a chronical of all my tanks.

NATIVEVAMAN · 03-20-2008, 05:55 PM

It is most definatly vho,that means 85 watts from your 48 inch bulb.

TangMang232 · 03-21-2008, 03:34 PM

thats probably the one thing that confuses me the most is that they don't specify HO and VHO out put but rather one output lol. I get lost all to easily.

cheeks69 · 03-21-2008, 08:50 PM

I really don't know what NATIVEVAMAN is talking about, it's the ballast that dictates the wattage not the bulb. The Icecap 660 ballast originally was made to run 4 110w T12 VHO bulbs now this was way before T5's came out on the market. Now people are using this ballast to run the T5 HO bulbs and by using this ballast your overdriving these bulbs and that's why people are getting more watts out of the bulb.

NATIVEVAMAN · 03-21-2008, 09:18 PM

Cheeks,in this case it is the bulb.The bulb is actually made to run at the high wattages, it is NOT overdriven.

cheeks69 · 03-21-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NATIVEVAMAN

Cheeks,in this case it is the bulb.The bulb is actually made to run at the high wattages, it is NOT overdriven.

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Ballast-The ballast starts the lamp, then limits its operating current and provides power factor correction.

Can you please explain to me how a bulb can put out more watts than a ballast can provide ?

NATIVEVAMAN · 03-21-2008, 09:48 PM

Who said anything about a bulb putting out more watts than a ballast can provide?I believe you were correct when you said you didnt know what I was talking about.What we are talking about is a ballast creating 380 watts from 4 bulbs that are not overdriven.It is really not that complicated.

cheeks69 · 03-21-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NATIVEVAMAN

Who said anything about a bulb putting out more watts than a ballast can provide?I believe you were correct when you said you didnt know what I was talking about.What we are talking about is a ballast creating 380 watts from 4 bulbs that are not overdriven.It is really not that complicated.

Well you'll have to excuse me but I have difficulty understanding why a manufactorer would sell a 54 w bulb and a ballast getting 85 watts out of that bulb and it not being overdriven

Also could you please provide me with a llink to T5 VHO's I've been searching and I can't find it TIA.

NATIVEVAMAN · 03-22-2008, 06:29 AM

https://diyreef.authsecure.com/shop/...e85b27f4f6e900
Perhaps you could do what I did when I wanted to know more about these bulbs,call UVL.They will be more than happy to explain it to you.What they will tell you is that these bulbs have thicker glass,longer filiments and denser phosphers to support higher wattage.

NATIVEVAMAN · 03-22-2008, 09:48 AM

Welcome to UVLCO.COM. Home of UV LIGHTING CO.

cheeks69 · 03-22-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NATIVEVAMAN

Welcome to UVLCO.COM. Home of UV LIGHTING CO.

Ah T5V-HO why didn't you say so ? You kept putting out VHO it didn't make any sense as these only come in T12's.
BTW thanks for the link !

TangMang232 · 03-22-2008, 12:51 PM

boy now im really lost. I was under the assumption that t-5 VHO was the correct term. Whats T5V-HO stand for?? Im sorry guys im sure im driving you all nuts with my questions but im just hoping the kit that i ordered with the UVL bulbs is going to give me the best bang for the buck?

03-19-2008, 07:00 PM	#106 (permalink)
NATIVEVAMAN Serpent Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond va Posts: 209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not Lay the rods across the top of the tank hold them down with small pieces of duct tape and lay the screen across the top of them.

03-20-2008, 02:12 AM	#107 (permalink)
CMG Neon dottyback Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sonoma County, CA Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: t5 or not I hope I am not thread jacking but I dont think I should start a new thread jsut for this question and its kinda related. I am upgrading from PC (outer orbit 65watt) to T5 (current usa outer orbit pro). Do I need to acclimate using this screen method?? I have some mushrooms and some polyps and thats it. Thanks! Oh and if I thread jacked I can just ask the mods to erase this.. __________________ My Chronical: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wlr-setup.html 40g, Banggai Cardinal, B&W Clown, Flame Angel, Scooter Dragon and a golden banded shrimp.

03-20-2008, 08:25 AM	#108 (permalink)
NATIVEVAMAN Serpent Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond va Posts: 209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not I would recomend you do it.

03-20-2008, 01:13 PM	#109 (permalink)
TangMang232 Serpent Star Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 208 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not okay native, so im set with my 65 gallon. another question though: I received a 60 gallon tank for free from petsmart, and i was thinkin of doing an sps only tank. Now i understand there are drawbacks due to the tank being 12-13 inches front to back, so not much room for aquascaping but ill get it to work lol. Anyways the question is, the DIY light 4 bulb 48" setup has a 660 ballast but it says that its HO, would this be VHO by any chance?? Heres a link: https://diyreef.authsecure.com/shop/...0184141b2ce143 Also plans for 125 will start in june-august time. ill be sure to start a chronical of all my tanks.

03-20-2008, 05:55 PM	#110 (permalink)
NATIVEVAMAN Serpent Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond va Posts: 209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not It is most definatly vho,that means 85 watts from your 48 inch bulb.

03-21-2008, 03:34 PM	#111 (permalink)
TangMang232 Serpent Star Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 208 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not thats probably the one thing that confuses me the most is that they don't specify HO and VHO out put but rather one output lol. I get lost all to easily.

03-21-2008, 08:50 PM	#112 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,142 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not I really don't know what NATIVEVAMAN is talking about, it's the ballast that dictates the wattage not the bulb. The Icecap 660 ballast originally was made to run 4 110w T12 VHO bulbs now this was way before T5's came out on the market. Now people are using this ballast to run the T5 HO bulbs and by using this ballast your overdriving these bulbs and that's why people are getting more watts out of the bulb. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

03-21-2008, 09:18 PM	#113 (permalink)
NATIVEVAMAN Serpent Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond va Posts: 209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not Cheeks,in this case it is the bulb.The bulb is actually made to run at the high wattages, it is NOT overdriven.

03-21-2008, 09:48 PM	#115 (permalink)
NATIVEVAMAN Serpent Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond va Posts: 209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not Who said anything about a bulb putting out more watts than a ballast can provide?I believe you were correct when you said you didnt know what I was talking about.What we are talking about is a ballast creating 380 watts from 4 bulbs that are not overdriven.It is really not that complicated.

03-22-2008, 06:29 AM	#117 (permalink)
NATIVEVAMAN Serpent Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond va Posts: 209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not https://diyreef.authsecure.com/shop/...e85b27f4f6e900 Perhaps you could do what I did when I wanted to know more about these bulbs,call UVL.They will be more than happy to explain it to you.What they will tell you is that these bulbs have thicker glass,longer filiments and denser phosphers to support higher wattage.

03-22-2008, 09:48 AM	#118 (permalink)
NATIVEVAMAN Serpent Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond va Posts: 209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not Welcome to UVLCO.COM. Home of UV LIGHTING CO.

03-22-2008, 12:51 PM	#120 (permalink)
TangMang232 Serpent Star Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 208 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: t5 or not boy now im really lost. I was under the assumption that t-5 VHO was the correct term. Whats T5V-HO stand for?? Im sorry guys im sure im driving you all nuts with my questions but im just hoping the kit that i ordered with the UVL bulbs is going to give me the best bang for the buck?

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