This may be obvious but not to me.

chuck116 · 03-04-2008, 12:08 PM

PLEASE HELP! I have put a 10 gallon tank inside the stand of my 180. Just in case my clown eggs hatch and i am able to get some of them out. I plummed a mag 3 which lays in my fuge which runs a homemade media filter. I installed a t fitting and ran an additional inlet from the pump into the 10 gal. and also ran an outlet from the 10 gal. so essentially the water is coming from the 10 and returning to the 10 except the mag would not pump unless i had an open fitting next to it. i have installed ball valves to be able to slow the flow if needed. My question is with water seeking its own level should the tank and my fuge be at the same height in

case of power failure,? or can the 10 be higher? any help is as alway appreciated. Thanks chuck.

chuck116 · 03-04-2008, 12:11 PM

P.S. it seems as though the lenght of the return tube makes a difference in water level. does this make sense? and does the feed tube lenght matter also?

Dentoid · 03-05-2008, 03:21 PM

Octoman · 03-05-2008, 04:08 PM

You have fried my little brain with plumbing description, can you post a picture?

It sounds to me like you are saying the mag pumps from the 10g and your fuge on the inlet side. Then it pumps into the 10g only. Is this right?

tbittner · 03-06-2008, 06:39 AM

I agree, please post a pic. I can't image it in my mind either.

naperenterprise · 03-06-2008, 08:06 AM

Not sure what you mean.

What I would have done, is put a 10 gallon under the 180. (A little higher than the fuge, like 2 inches higher with (2) 2x4's under the 10 gallon.

Put a cheap submersable water pump into the fuge/sump and pump water into the 10 gallon, from the 10 gallon I would run a continious flow overflow that puts the water back into the fuge/sump.

This way all of the water is moving throught your system.

Even add's an extra 10 gallons...

I would have desinged it to be shut off or removed if needed, but available for reasons such as this (clown eggs), or to remove bad crabs or fish if needed...

prow · 03-06-2008, 08:23 AM

lost me too, a pic or drawing something?

tbittner · 03-07-2008, 07:25 AM

Hello? Is this thing on?

mps9506 · 03-07-2008, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck116

PLEASE HELP! I have put a 10 gallon tank inside the stand of my 180. Just in case my clown eggs hatch and i am able to get some of them out. I plummed a mag 3 which lays in my fuge which runs a homemade media filter. I installed a t fitting and ran an additional inlet from the pump into the 10 gal. and also ran an outlet from the 10 gal. so essentially the water is coming from the 10 and returning to the 10 except the mag would not pump unless i had an open fitting next to it. i have installed ball valves to be able to slow the flow if needed. My question is with water seeking its own level should the tank and my fuge be at the same height in

case of power failure,? or can the 10 be higher? any help is as alway appreciated. Thanks chuck.

The 10 gallon tank has to be higher because you are relying on gravity to drain water from the 10 gallon tank back to the sump/fuge.

Jason25 · 03-07-2008, 08:23 AM

Glad to see that I am not the only 1 that was confused by that.

03-04-2008, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
chuck116 Midas Blenny Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 114 View Gallery Karma Komment	This may be obvious but not to me. PLEASE HELP! I have put a 10 gallon tank inside the stand of my 180. Just in case my clown eggs hatch and i am able to get some of them out. I plummed a mag 3 which lays in my fuge which runs a homemade media filter. I installed a t fitting and ran an additional inlet from the pump into the 10 gal. and also ran an outlet from the 10 gal. so essentially the water is coming from the 10 and returning to the 10 except the mag would not pump unless i had an open fitting next to it. i have installed ball valves to be able to slow the flow if needed. My question is with water seeking its own level should the tank and my fuge be at the same height in case of power failure,? or can the 10 be higher? any help is as alway appreciated. Thanks chuck.

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chuck116 Midas Blenny Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 114 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: This may be obvious but not to me. P.S. it seems as though the lenght of the return tube makes a difference in water level. does this make sense? and does the feed tube lenght matter also?

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Octoman Majano Slayer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,359 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: This may be obvious but not to me. You have fried my little brain with plumbing description, can you post a picture? It sounds to me like you are saying the mag pumps from the 10g and your fuge on the inlet side. Then it pumps into the 10g only. Is this right? __________________ Mark My tank thread... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-euphoria.html Tank build... http://55reef.blogspot.com/

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tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: This may be obvious but not to me. I agree, please post a pic. I can't image it in my mind either. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

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naperenterprise Plate Coral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Near Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 795 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: This may be obvious but not to me. Not sure what you mean. What I would have done, is put a 10 gallon under the 180. (A little higher than the fuge, like 2 inches higher with (2) 2x4's under the 10 gallon. Put a cheap submersable water pump into the fuge/sump and pump water into the 10 gallon, from the 10 gallon I would run a continious flow overflow that puts the water back into the fuge/sump. This way all of the water is moving throught your system. Even add's an extra 10 gallons... I would have desinged it to be shut off or removed if needed, but available for reasons such as this (clown eggs), or to remove bad crabs or fish if needed... __________________ ~~~Jason~~~ Go check out My Chronicle

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