sump design...check it out!

lowfi · 12-18-2007, 07:49 PM

Hey everyone,

tell me what you think of this 20g tank...i need some help with the plumbing for sure, let me know if this is/isnt going to work out or what you would change. pretty much i copied melevsreef but i need some help with plumbing, pumps, and water level.

thanks!!!

lowfi · 12-18-2007, 09:31 PM

no bueno?

BigAl07 · 12-18-2007, 09:38 PM

Bueno

I like the layout of it. It very closely resembles how I plan to plumb my new 90g tank, sump and refugium. Just thinking out loud here I would add another bubble trap after the fuge jus in case. It may or may NOT be needed but I like more rather than less.

Looks good and I am sure others will check it out and make suggestions.

cracker · 12-18-2007, 09:56 PM

IMHO, as long as your not pushing a lot of water thru the ref section & the drop into the return isn't too much It will be ok. Hard call, extra panels for a baffle take up precious space.

BigAl07 · 12-18-2007, 10:06 PM

cracker (aka nut) is right. As long as there isn't a lot of drop any bubbles will stay suspended up at the top of the water column and the pump will be taking IN from the bottom. That should work our just fine.

lowfi · 12-18-2007, 10:43 PM

can i put acryllic baffles on a glass tank, i heard this isnt possible..

silicon not bond to acryllic?

cracker · 12-18-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lowfi

can i put acryllic baffles on a glass tank, i heard this isnt possible..silicon not bond to acryllic?

IMO ,you can use silicone with acrylic . Consider roughing up the edges of the acrylic with fine sand paper.

Jason25 · 12-19-2007, 07:48 AM

The other reason people shy away from it is that acryllic and glass expand and contract at different rates and it is possible that you could crack the sump. Not sure if anyone ever had this happen but it is possible.

xelnaga15 · 12-19-2007, 10:35 AM

Im no sump pro but why would you put a ball valve on the right overflow? isnt a ball valve to prevent back flow? why would anything backflow on a overflow?

panmanmatt · 12-19-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xelnaga15

Im no sump pro but why would you put a ball valve on the right overflow? isnt a ball valve to prevent back flow? why would anything backflow on a overflow?

To adjust the amount of flow going into the refugium. With the ball valve you can direct the flow back into the main sump instead of it blowing throw your fuge.

BigAl07 · 12-19-2007, 11:06 AM

Matt's exactly right. You don't want a LOT of flow going into your refugium. It's much more efficient with slow flow which allows for more "Dwell" time. This allows you to "Tweak" your system for optimum performance

kyle1284 · 12-19-2007, 11:08 AM

i think its a great idea... i personally am going to build a bigger version of this in the future... can u please take pictures of the build and share them with everyone?

waucedah_joe · 12-19-2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xelnaga15

Im no sump pro but why would you put a ball valve on the right overflow? isnt a ball valve to prevent back flow? why would anything backflow on a overflow?

I believe you're thinking of a check valve, not a ball valve.

BigAl07 · 12-19-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by waucedah_joe

I believe you're thinking of a check valve, not a ball valve.

Good catch there buddy! I believe you're exactly right.

GiantRedEyeball · 12-19-2007, 12:04 PM

Great Success

12-18-2007, 07:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: sump design...check it out! Bueno I like the layout of it. It very closely resembles how I plan to plumb my new 90g tank, sump and refugium. Just thinking out loud here I would add another bubble trap after the fuge jus in case. It may or may NOT be needed but I like more rather than less. Looks good and I am sure others will check it out and make suggestions. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: sump design...check it out! cracker (aka nut) is right. As long as there isn't a lot of drop any bubbles will stay suspended up at the top of the water column and the pump will be taking IN from the bottom. That should work our just fine. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: sump design...check it out! Matt's exactly right. You don't want a LOT of flow going into your refugium. It's much more efficient with slow flow which allows for more "Dwell" time. This allows you to "Tweak" your system for optimum performance __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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