sump design...check it out! - Page 2

lowfi · 12-19-2007, 12:19 PM

i GUESS ill take pictures...jk, sounds like a plan. should i put the ball valve closer to the overflow T or should i keep it where it is?? I figured if it was closer the full pressure from the overflow doesnt have to push the water as far..

kyle1284 · 12-19-2007, 12:26 PM

hmmm good question

Jake · 12-19-2007, 12:35 PM

Attached is a photo of my sump when new. I run the water height to 1 inch below the highest internal baffle.

Another consideration is whether you plan to use a sump sock and also whether you are planning for a sponge / carbon area.

goody · 12-19-2007, 08:44 PM

Very nice sump lowfi. It's pretty funny, because this past week, I have just been researching the same DIY sump, but I am thinking of using a 29gallon. What dimensions are you planning on using for each chamber? I've always seen the return chamber the smallest, but I've read that this is the area where most evaporation will occur, thus requiring topoff more frequently. Just curious about sizes of chambers since I will be doing the same.

lowfi · 12-20-2007, 01:12 AM

do you think i should do the LR rubble overflow box??? or just a sock, or nothing at all???

PSHPAINTBALL · 12-20-2007, 03:25 PM

sorry lofi to steal this thread but someones reading my mind

lowfi · 12-31-2007, 01:14 AM

do you think that bubble trap with live rock is a good idea? I cant figure out how im going to plumb the overflow so that there is sufficient flow to both the refugium and the skimmer...!

cracker · 12-31-2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lowfi

Hey everyone,

tell me what you think of this 20g tank...i need some help with the plumbing for sure, let me know if this is/isnt going to work out or what you would change. pretty much i copied melevsreef but i need some help with plumbing, pumps, and water level.

thanks!!!

Lowfi I would think the majority of water draining will pass right by the tee You may end up with very little flow to the refugium. How about turning the sump around so the refugium is under the drain & placing your ball valve below the tee. this way you can turn the valve down into the ref section & it will force the majority of water thru the tee to the skimmer section. Just a thought. What do Ya think?

cracker · 12-31-2007, 02:13 AM

PSHPAINT has got the idea. Do You have an internal overflow? If it's an hob, can move it to the other side of the tank? Is the drain 1"? If You don't have the pipe& valves already You could go up a size. Say 1 1/4 maybe.The water would drain a little better. I like the bubble traps where the water exits at the bottom. Point the intake on the sedra right where the water comes out. I don't know about putting LR in the B trap. Would the proteins & such collect on the rock instead of making it to the skimmer?

boozeman · 12-31-2007, 02:42 AM

IMHO it would be best to make the skimmers output dump into the refugium that way it doesnt get straight water from the tank and becomes less of a nutrient trap.
btw, your sump design is the same as mine
A day at the shop

cracker · 12-31-2007, 02:59 AM

interesting B Man . Just skimmer output into the ref.

cioutlaw · 12-31-2007, 08:14 PM

Same design I did. Mine is a 75gal. I would do valve on both outlets of the tee to get it balanced out. I would also buy glass baffles. Easy to have cut & install.

cracker · 12-31-2007, 11:13 PM

Now thats a nice sump! Lots of room!

lowfi · 01-01-2008, 02:13 PM

should i do 2 or 3 baffles???

cioutlaw · 01-01-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lowfi

should i do 2 or 3 baffles???

I did 2 & wish I had done 3. I think it depends on how much flow you have.

12-19-2007, 12:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
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12-19-2007, 12:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
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12-19-2007, 08:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
goody Star Polyps Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 156 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: sump design...check it out! Very nice sump lowfi. It's pretty funny, because this past week, I have just been researching the same DIY sump, but I am thinking of using a 29gallon. What dimensions are you planning on using for each chamber? I've always seen the return chamber the smallest, but I've read that this is the area where most evaporation will occur, thus requiring topoff more frequently. Just curious about sizes of chambers since I will be doing the same.

12-20-2007, 01:12 AM	#20 (permalink)
lowfi Midas Blenny Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 100 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: sump design...check it out! do you think i should do the LR rubble overflow box??? or just a sock, or nothing at all???

12-20-2007, 03:25 PM	#21 (permalink)
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12-31-2007, 01:14 AM	#22 (permalink)
lowfi Midas Blenny Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 100 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: sump design...check it out! do you think that bubble trap with live rock is a good idea? I cant figure out how im going to plumb the overflow so that there is sufficient flow to both the refugium and the skimmer...!

12-31-2007, 02:13 AM	#24 (permalink)
cracker Acropora Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,785 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: sump design...check it out! PSHPAINT has got the idea. Do You have an internal overflow? If it's an hob, can move it to the other side of the tank? Is the drain 1"? If You don't have the pipe& valves already You could go up a size. Say 1 1/4 maybe.The water would drain a little better. I like the bubble traps where the water exits at the bottom. Point the intake on the sedra right where the water comes out. I don't know about putting LR in the B trap. Would the proteins & such collect on the rock instead of making it to the skimmer?

12-31-2007, 02:42 AM	#25 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: sump design...check it out! IMHO it would be best to make the skimmers output dump into the refugium that way it doesnt get straight water from the tank and becomes less of a nutrient trap. btw, your sump design is the same as mine A day at the shop __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

12-31-2007, 02:59 AM	#26 (permalink)
cracker Acropora Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,785 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: sump design...check it out! interesting B Man . Just skimmer output into the ref.

12-31-2007, 08:14 PM	#27 (permalink)
cioutlaw Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Champaign Illinois Posts: 958 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: sump design...check it out! Same design I did. Mine is a 75gal. I would do valve on both outlets of the tee to get it balanced out. I would also buy glass baffles. Easy to have cut & install. __________________ My 120gallon chronical My 225 gallon chronical My website

12-31-2007, 11:13 PM	#28 (permalink)
cracker Acropora Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,785 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: sump design...check it out! Now thats a nice sump! Lots of room!

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