New sump ???`s

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 01:35 PM

I will be adding a sump to my 10g reef hopefully soon. I will use a 5.5g AllGlassAquarium. I plan on using this pump: Aquarium Water Movement: ViaAqua Water Pumps for the return, model 480. I am not sure of exact specs at this point. I will the skimmer pump and return in it, the heater, ACmini, and fan mounted above it all. So if you have any ideas, let me know, no rush. Or if you have a better pump idea, I want something that won't brake the bank, let me know, soon. Thanks gang

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Witfull · 11-22-2007, 02:44 PM

one thing you must check on the pump is head pressure,,,how much flow at what hight. some pumps wont lift water very high.

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 03:46 PM

How would you tell about this one? Any suggestions?
Its got a 4ft head... 3' 3'' from bottom of sump to tank.

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 03:58 PM

Could I mount a ridged U Cut 1'' below the surface connected to tubing going to the sump. That would feed the sump via siphon. But if the siphon stopped dose anybody have ideas for pump protection? Or better ideas for the feed? Thanks.

Witfull · 11-22-2007, 04:07 PM

a 4ft head means it will only pump water up to 4ft. and thats probably a trickle.

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 04:10 PM

hmmm so the 1300 would be no good too?

cracker · 11-22-2007, 05:10 PM

Can you fit in a 10gl sump?

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 05:44 PM

Not with ALL the stuff in there now too.

cracker · 11-22-2007, 06:12 PM

Pemfish, I use an Aquaclear powerhead for water changes. It will push water up 5' thru a long hose & is pretty small. I think it's a model 70. Can you raise the sump? That would cut back on head loss. I'm thinking both the return & skimmer pumps in a 5 gl is going to cause heat issues.

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 06:30 PM

AC`s are good...~thanks

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...heat issues.

...fan...

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 06:33 PM

AC is to much $$$ ( No, thats Not a typo )

What about model 900 of Aquarium powerhead/water pump: Maxi-Jet Powerhead/Pumps provide vital water movement ?

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 06:37 PM

Or any of Penguin Powerheads

tbittner · 11-22-2007, 06:48 PM

Maybe the manufactures website would list the head rating for these pumps. The thing to remember is if the pump is rated at 300 gph, at 4 feet it may only be pumping 3 gph.

cracker · 11-22-2007, 06:51 PM

I was surprised how well the Aquaclears can push water. If you cut the venturi off a garden hose fits snugly.

PEMfish · 11-22-2007, 07:31 PM

...if you can find the sites.
Thanks for the help so far.
So, ideas ( pump, overflowfeed, sump layout )?

11-22-2007, 01:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	New sump ???`s I will be adding a sump to my 10g reef hopefully soon. I will use a 5.5g AllGlassAquarium. I plan on using this pump: Aquarium Water Movement: ViaAqua Water Pumps for the return, model 480. I am not sure of exact specs at this point. I will the skimmer pump and return in it, the heater, ACmini, and fan mounted above it all. So if you have any ideas, let me know, no rush. Or if you have a better pump idea, I want something that won't brake the bank, let me know, soon. Thanks gang. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

11-22-2007, 03:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New sump ???`s How would you tell about this one? Any suggestions? Its got a 4ft head... 3' 3'' from bottom of sump to tank. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

11-22-2007, 03:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New sump ???`s Could I mount a ridged U Cut 1'' below the surface connected to tubing going to the sump. That would feed the sump via siphon. But if the siphon stopped dose anybody have ideas for pump protection? Or better ideas for the feed? Thanks. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

11-22-2007, 04:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New sump ???`s hmmm so the 1300 would be no good too? __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

11-22-2007, 05:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
cracker Reef Lobster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,603 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New sump ???`s Can you fit in a 10gl sump?

11-22-2007, 05:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New sump ???`s Not with ALL the stuff in there now too. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

11-22-2007, 06:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
cracker Reef Lobster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,603 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New sump ???`s Pemfish, I use an Aquaclear powerhead for water changes. It will push water up 5' thru a long hose & is pretty small. I think it's a model 70. Can you raise the sump? That would cut back on head loss. I'm thinking both the return & skimmer pumps in a 5 gl is going to cause heat issues.

11-22-2007, 06:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New sump ???`s AC is to much $$$ ( No, thats Not a typo ) What about model 900 of Aquarium powerhead/water pump: Maxi-Jet Powerhead/Pumps provide vital water movement ? __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

11-22-2007, 06:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New sump ???`s Or any of Penguin Powerheads __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

11-22-2007, 06:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,080 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New sump ???`s Maybe the manufactures website would list the head rating for these pumps. The thing to remember is if the pump is rated at 300 gph, at 4 feet it may only be pumping 3 gph. __________________ Terry My chronicle 120g with 300g sump/refug, Outer Orbit HQI/T5HO 24-Hour Light System: : 48" 250W HQI 4x54W Lots of fish. 150g predator tank full of killers. 450g tank is IN the HOUSE!

11-22-2007, 06:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
cracker Reef Lobster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,603 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New sump ???`s I was surprised how well the Aquaclears can push water. If you cut the venturi off a garden hose fits snugly.

11-22-2007, 07:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New sump ???`s ...if you can find the sites. Thanks for the help so far. So, ideas ( pump, overflowfeed, sump layout )? __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

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