VHO's - Page 3

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 10:41 PM

so a 4x65 watt pc fixture would be great right? also i had a good diy idea, what if i got a MH retro and to 1x65 pc retros and combined all that together in the canopy it would be a little more but would be better? or should i get the more energy-effecient pc's that are probaly just as intense?

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 10:43 PM

i think i will get a 4x65 watt pc fixture. i had an idea, what if i got a MH retro and a pc retro and put that all under one hood would that be better? (it would cost more)lol.or should i get the 4x65 watt pc fixture that is probaly just as intense. also 65 watts pc=110 watts

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 10:44 PM

woops, double post!

framerguy · 09-13-2007, 10:52 PM

[quote=jubbers;303502]so a 4x65 watt pc fixture would be great right? It would be adequate, it all depends on what you want to keep.also i had a good diy idea, what if i got a MH retro and to 1x65 pc (2x65 would be better, 4x65 better still with the 150w halides. retros and combined all that together in the canopy it would be a little more but would be better? or should i get the more energy-effecient pc's that are probaly just as intense?They are not as intense, when the halides come on and go off it will be A VERY NOTICABLE DIFFERENCE. [/quote] DIY retro is the most cost efficient way to go, Marine depot and Drs foster and smith have some good kits or you can mix and match to truly DIY.

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 10:53 PM

ok i will check it out!

framerguy · 09-13-2007, 10:57 PM

Plus Jubbers, with metal halide you will get a point specific light which will give you the little ripples of light that are so beautiful on the ocean floor. Flourescents don't produce that because the light is so spread out. Your corals will also like it because those ripples intensify the light and reflect it off the bottom to illuminate the bottoms of the corals, something that isn't as effective with flourescents alone.

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 11:01 PM

would the pc's be good for stonies?

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 11:05 PM

Aquadirect :: Lighting :: Metal Halide :: Metal Halide Pendants :: Horizontal Pendants :: Horizontal Pendant
would two of these be enough for a 55G. do these pendants include a ballast?

framerguy · 09-13-2007, 11:07 PM

They would be adequate with enough of them. Go for the MH retro if you can afford it Jubbers, you will not be disappointed, I promise.

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 11:07 PM

is 2 enough of them?

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 11:10 PM

if a retro MH has a ballast can you link another mh retro to it? cause if you could i think i coul afford it.

framerguy · 09-13-2007, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jubbers

Aquadirect :: Lighting :: Metal Halide :: Metal Halide Pendants :: Horizontal Pendants :: Horizontal Pendant
would two of these be enough for a 55G. do these pendants include a ballast?

Yes they would and no they don't. Two icecap 150 ballasts and two pfo pendants with two bulbs will run about ~$600-650. Do them one at a time, there's nothing wrong with that. Or just do one on one side of the tank and keep your light lovers there, and on the other side use the PCs, it's a cool look!

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 11:15 PM

i wold rather get a mh retro i would rather do that. or get vhos, see i am trying to keep the lights around $200-$250

jubbers · 09-13-2007, 11:20 PM

goog night i will be back tomorrow

framerguy · 09-13-2007, 11:32 PM

Current USA 2-lamp 65-Watt ballast with clip (Saltwater Aquarium Supplies > Lighting > Accessories > Ballasts > Power Compact > With Endcaps )
Current USA 65W 10000K White PowerCompact Bulb - Square Pin (Saltwater Aquarium Supplies > Lighting > Bulbs > Power Compact > Square Pin > 65 Watts > Daylight/ White )
Current USA 65W Actinic 03 PowerCompact Bulb - Square Pin (Saltwater Aquarium Supplies > Lighting > Bulbs > Power Compact > Square Pin > 65 Watts > Actinic/ Blue )
okay, two ballasts, and two of each bulb will be $279 and shipping will be free. That's a great start. Add some metal halides later, maybe Santa will be good to you this year, LOL.

09-13-2007, 10:41 PM	#31 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's so a 4x65 watt pc fixture would be great right? also i had a good diy idea, what if i got a MH retro and to 1x65 pc retros and combined all that together in the canopy it would be a little more but would be better? or should i get the more energy-effecient pc's that are probaly just as intense? __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 10:43 PM	#32 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's i think i will get a 4x65 watt pc fixture. i had an idea, what if i got a MH retro and a pc retro and put that all under one hood would that be better? (it would cost more)lol.or should i get the 4x65 watt pc fixture that is probaly just as intense. also 65 watts pc=110 watts __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 10:44 PM	#33 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's woops, double post! __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 10:52 PM	#34 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,526 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's [quote=jubbers;303502]so a 4x65 watt pc fixture would be great right? It would be adequate, it all depends on what you want to keep.also i had a good diy idea, what if i got a MH retro and to 1x65 pc (2x65 would be better, 4x65 better still with the 150w halides. retros and combined all that together in the canopy it would be a little more but would be better? or should i get the more energy-effecient pc's that are probaly just as intense?They are not as intense, when the halides come on and go off it will be A VERY NOTICABLE DIFFERENCE. [/quote] DIY retro is the most cost efficient way to go, Marine depot and Drs foster and smith have some good kits or you can mix and match to truly DIY. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum

09-13-2007, 10:53 PM	#35 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's ok i will check it out! __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 10:57 PM	#36 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,526 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's Plus Jubbers, with metal halide you will get a point specific light which will give you the little ripples of light that are so beautiful on the ocean floor. Flourescents don't produce that because the light is so spread out. Your corals will also like it because those ripples intensify the light and reflect it off the bottom to illuminate the bottoms of the corals, something that isn't as effective with flourescents alone. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum

09-13-2007, 11:01 PM	#37 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's would the pc's be good for stonies? __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 11:05 PM	#38 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's Aquadirect :: Lighting :: Metal Halide :: Metal Halide Pendants :: Horizontal Pendants :: Horizontal Pendant would two of these be enough for a 55G. do these pendants include a ballast? __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 11:07 PM	#39 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,526 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's They would be adequate with enough of them. Go for the MH retro if you can afford it Jubbers, you will not be disappointed, I promise. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum

09-13-2007, 11:07 PM	#40 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's is 2 enough of them? __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 11:10 PM	#41 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's if a retro MH has a ballast can you link another mh retro to it? cause if you could i think i coul afford it. __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 11:15 PM	#43 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's i wold rather get a mh retro i would rather do that. or get vhos, see i am trying to keep the lights around $200-$250 __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 11:20 PM	#44 (permalink)
jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 602 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's goog night i will be back tomorrow __________________ A lot of times I find that people who are blessed with the most talent don't ever develop that attitude, and the ones who aren't blessed in that way are the most competitive and have the biggest heart. Tom Brady Throw it up ther and I'll go get it dog. Randy Moss

09-13-2007, 11:32 PM	#45 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,526 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: VHO's Current USA 2-lamp 65-Watt ballast with clip (Saltwater Aquarium Supplies > Lighting > Accessories > Ballasts > Power Compact > With Endcaps ) Current USA 65W 10000K White PowerCompact Bulb - Square Pin (Saltwater Aquarium Supplies > Lighting > Bulbs > Power Compact > Square Pin > 65 Watts > Daylight/ White ) Current USA 65W Actinic 03 PowerCompact Bulb - Square Pin (Saltwater Aquarium Supplies > Lighting > Bulbs > Power Compact > Square Pin > 65 Watts > Actinic/ Blue ) okay, two ballasts, and two of each bulb will be $279 and shipping will be free. That's a great start. Add some metal halides later, maybe Santa will be good to you this year, LOL. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum

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