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| Torch coral | Metal Halide Bulb Question I'm looking at a metal halide light and you can chose a 10K, 15k, or 20k bulb. What's the difference - lighting spectrum? If so, which would be closer to having metal halide w/actinics? Thanks.
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| Wannabe Guru ![]() | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question The higher the kelvin the bluer the bulb and of course a big drop in PAR. Quote:
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| Torch coral | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question OK, so I should have searched first :-) 10k bulb- sunlight bulb 15k- Half sunlight with some blue spectrum 20k - very blue spectrum This is a great link also (forget who posted it): http://www.cnidarianreef.com/lamps.cfm
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| Wannabe Guru ![]() | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question Here's a chart: ![]()
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| Torch coral | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question we posted at the same time :-) ok, so i don't have it all figured out yet :-) reference the question, "...metal halide w/actinics" i currently run pc ligts w/day and actinic. i prefer the look w/both running at the same time vs. just the days. that said, i'm sure metal halide is a differnet ball game than pc's but i'm looking for a similiar look. now, what you did help me understand is the higher the "K" the less PAR there will be. "Photosynethis something..." so, that said, the 15K is probably what i'm looking for. happy medium between day (10K) and very blue spectrum (20K). not to mention (through reading) it seems most folks prefer the 12K - 14K.
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| Torch coral | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question cheeks, your all over it :-) thank you so much. that chart helps also.
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| Torch coral | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question ok, i'm thinking again - watch out. so, understanding that the higher the "K" is, the lower the "PAR" will be; can you counterbalance "PAR" with "Watts"? in other words, if a 10K 150w metal halide bulb gives me the PAR i'm looking for - but it is to "white", can i use a 15K 250w metal halide bulb to get the PAR i need?
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| DIY Moderator ![]() | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question Quote:
__________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!! | |
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| Torch coral | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question that makes total sense troy. thank you.
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| Scopas Tang | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question The other thing to consider on color is the manufactureer of the bulb. Some people claim a ushio bulb is more "yellow" than an xm bulb of the same k rating. I have seen coralife 10ks vs Ushio 14ks The coralife we're a whiter color and ushios's we're slightly more yellish. Another factor that seems to be making a difference is ballast type. magnetic vs electrical but I have no exp with that one. Just here-say and rumor...
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| DIY Moderator ![]() | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question The Electronic ballast will produce a whiter light that is closer to the actual color rating of the bulb, since it is more eficent than the magnetic ballast. They also run a little bit cheaper on the electric bill. Yes, all bulbs are different from different manufacturers, even though they are of the same Color rating. Why this is I'n not sure, but they are.
__________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!! |
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| Acropora | Re: Metal Halide Bulb Question diffrent brand bulbs will not be the same color (look) you will have to test em out...
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