Lime water Top off

Warnberg · 02-01-2007, 09:23 PM

Alright, for all you lime water\kalkwasser top off folks what are the cons of topping off with lime water?

From what I have read and experienced here are a few of the pros:
Increases Calcium
Increases Alkalinity
Aids in phosphate precipitation out of water

So what are the drawbacks? Are there any?

JFK_Jr · 02-01-2007, 09:39 PM

Accidentally overdosing and inhalation of the dust are concerns, but are easily manageable.

Kalkwasser's benefits greatly outweigh the risks...

sasquatch · 02-01-2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK_Jr

Accidentally overdosing and inhalation of the dust are concerns, but are easily manageable.

Kalkwasser's benefits greatly outweigh the risks...

Exactly what I did (not the inhale) read about it, dripped it to fast, had 5 hippos on their sides, survived but I never tried it again. Steve

Warnberg · 02-02-2007, 10:16 AM

Thats it?

Ok so don't snort it, and easy on the drip......

boozeman · 02-02-2007, 10:19 AM

www.twopartsolution.com

JFK_Jr · 02-02-2007, 10:21 AM

Yeah.... Kalkwasser Totally Rocks!!!

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JFK_Jr · 02-02-2007, 10:24 AM

Kalkwasser...My life for you!

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Warnberg · 02-02-2007, 10:34 AM

boozeman, I have a calcium reactor to get away from dosing all the time, now I built my own limewater topoff (currently building a new one out of acrylic).... and I have to agree..

Kalkwasser Rocks

craig7220 · 02-02-2007, 10:48 AM

I'm dripping limewater every night to replace evaporate. It helps maintain your PH at night. Like already stated, don't drip too fast... I think the ph of the limewater is about 12.9 or close to it... a fast drip could drastically effect your PH. I usually drip about 1 to 2 drops per second. Also if you use Mrs. Wage's Pickling Lime, you are getting the same thing without the high cost of Kalkwasser from your LSF.... I"m not sure JFK Jr. likes Kalkwasser though ... LOL

Some of the stuff to watch out for.. 2 tsps per gallon of RODI water is all that can be mixed. More Kalk won't dissolve.. Also once mixed, let sit until the suspended particles settle on the bottom.. I usually let mine sit for at least 5 hours. Make sure that it is covered during this time... Then I just syphon off the clear liquid into another container and use that to drip into my sump.

I've been using Mrs Wage's for quite awhile and usually you can find it at the grocery store in the canning section. Hope this helps.....

Warnberg · 02-02-2007, 10:56 AM

Actually I bought a case of Mrs. Wages Pickling lime. I also am now auto topoff with limewater rather than straight RO/DI, works like a champ.

saltyfishtanks · 02-02-2007, 11:30 AM

good question!

no drawbacks that i know of i always mix my kalk lean, 1tsp to a gal. so i dont have to worry about accidental overdose, i only let it sit for a couple of min. to settle and drip it in faster than most. But on my glass covered 120 i only drip in 3/4 gallon of this lean mix twice a day. Prior to adding the glass canopy it it was 3-4 gallons a day of topoff daily, and wet windows around the whole house.

the lean kalk is the way to go for me, it works great in my 10g nano and does not stress anything.

SueT · 02-02-2007, 06:07 PM

I still use the kalkwasser from my LFS. I mix it every morning and drip it in at night, after Letterman and beddie time. I mix mine also at 1tsp/g. I keeps my calcium and alk right where I want them after I got them where I wanted them. I kinda like the stuff too.

Jorgens · 02-02-2007, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warnberg

Actually I bought a case of Mrs. Wages Pickling lime. I also am now auto topoff with limewater rather than straight RO/DI, works like a champ.

I've heard of it but haven't seen this yet....

That's my question. Is there a difference? I gotta pay enough for salt I wouln'dt mind pinching a penny if it has the same effect!!??

Warnberg · 02-02-2007, 06:51 PM

Well I did a little calculation. Randy's two part costs ya about 80 cents a gallon. Mr Wages Pickling lime runs about 7 cents a gallon.... beats dosing two part....

cheeks69 · 02-02-2007, 07:15 PM

I topoff daily with kalk but don't have it hooked up to a large reservoir which is trouble waiting to happen IMHO, so besides dumping a large amount of kalk saturated water and causing ph shock I don't see any other cons. This is my prehistoric method of dosing with pickling lime

02-01-2007, 09:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,908 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Lime water Top off Alright, for all you lime water\kalkwasser top off folks what are the cons of topping off with lime water? From what I have read and experienced here are a few of the pros: Increases Calcium Increases Alkalinity Aids in phosphate precipitation out of water So what are the drawbacks? Are there any? __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

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JFK_Jr Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hallandale Beach FL Posts: 2,108 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lime water Top off Accidentally overdosing and inhalation of the dust are concerns, but are easily manageable. Kalkwasser's benefits greatly outweigh the risks... __________________ *JFK_Jr's 150 Gallon Starphire*

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Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,908 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lime water Top off Thats it? Ok so don't snort it, and easy on the drip...... __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

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Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,908 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lime water Top off boozeman, I have a calcium reactor to get away from dosing all the time, now I built my own limewater topoff (currently building a new one out of acrylic).... and I have to agree.. Kalkwasser Rocks __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

02-02-2007, 10:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
craig7220 Fire Coral Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 60 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lime water Top off I'm dripping limewater every night to replace evaporate. It helps maintain your PH at night. Like already stated, don't drip too fast... I think the ph of the limewater is about 12.9 or close to it... a fast drip could drastically effect your PH. I usually drip about 1 to 2 drops per second. Also if you use Mrs. Wage's Pickling Lime, you are getting the same thing without the high cost of Kalkwasser from your LSF.... I"m not sure JFK Jr. likes Kalkwasser though ... LOL Some of the stuff to watch out for.. 2 tsps per gallon of RODI water is all that can be mixed. More Kalk won't dissolve.. Also once mixed, let sit until the suspended particles settle on the bottom.. I usually let mine sit for at least 5 hours. Make sure that it is covered during this time... Then I just syphon off the clear liquid into another container and use that to drip into my sump. I've been using Mrs Wage's for quite awhile and usually you can find it at the grocery store in the canning section. Hope this helps.....

02-02-2007, 10:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,908 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lime water Top off Actually I bought a case of Mrs. Wages Pickling lime. I also am now auto topoff with limewater rather than straight RO/DI, works like a champ. __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

02-02-2007, 11:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
saltyfishtanks Sea Pen Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: upstate new york Posts: 307 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lime water Top off good question! no drawbacks that i know of i always mix my kalk lean, 1tsp to a gal. so i dont have to worry about accidental overdose, i only let it sit for a couple of min. to settle and drip it in faster than most. But on my glass covered 120 i only drip in 3/4 gallon of this lean mix twice a day. Prior to adding the glass canopy it it was 3-4 gallons a day of topoff daily, and wet windows around the whole house. the lean kalk is the way to go for me, it works great in my 10g nano and does not stress anything. __________________ 48x24x24 120gallon, 2 seio 1500, 1200gph little giant return, 4 icecap t5 w/giesmann bulbs, aquamedic 500w heater/digital controller, sump/refuge is bioballs to chetomorpha to live rock with about 3-4 inches of crushed coral bottom

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SueT Neon dottyback Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 650 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lime water Top off I still use the kalkwasser from my LFS. I mix it every morning and drip it in at night, after Letterman and beddie time. I mix mine also at 1tsp/g. I keeps my calcium and alk right where I want them after I got them where I wanted them. I kinda like the stuff too. __________________ 120g sps/clam tank: http://berlinmethod.com/suet/ 2x250w 10k reeflux, actinic supplementation, mag12 return, 2 mjmods-1200, 2 mj1200 on wavemaker, kalk drip, ASM G3, 75+ spp. of acropora and montipora plating & encrusting sp. http://clamsdirect.com/phpbb2/

02-02-2007, 06:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,908 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lime water Top off Well I did a little calculation. Randy's two part costs ya about 80 cents a gallon. Mr Wages Pickling lime runs about 7 cents a gallon.... beats dosing two part.... __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

02-02-2007, 07:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,533 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lime water Top off I topoff daily with kalk but don't have it hooked up to a large reservoir which is trouble waiting to happen IMHO, so besides dumping a large amount of kalk saturated water and causing ph shock I don't see any other cons. This is my prehistoric method of dosing with pickling lime __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

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