show us your DIY Closed loop circulation - Page 2

Taoism · 12-18-2003, 06:56 AM

I don't think Mike counts for having a closed loop.... his is more like a "closed tidal pool" or perhaps "closed ocean loop"

Cheers,
Keith.

johnlewis · 12-18-2003, 10:43 AM

Well here is my design as of today. It's been through a little rework recently after seeing some posts so it's a work in progress until my fish room is completed. This is for a 180 6' long all glass. I have one of the pumps a Via Aqua rated at 1160 gph, which I think will be on the closed loop because it does not have enough head pressure for the sump.

wooddood · 12-18-2003, 10:47 AM

looks good john thanks.

Pro_builder · 12-18-2003, 01:58 PM

Looks good John. That setup is a lot like what I did. Except I ran my SWCD on the return. Not sure that I won't shange that to what you are showing here. I just want to figure out what size pump I want to use on the CLS system. Only want to buy one once.

johnlewis · 01-16-2004, 05:00 PM

Here is the one I just put in my 55.

jks1 · 01-16-2004, 06:12 PM

Great ideas, ? I have two SQWDs for my 180. I was planning on running a little giant on the one overflow that is built into the tank- to the sump etc. I also have a Sedra 1200 (1200 gph) that I was going to set up as a closed loop with one of the SQWDS. Cant decide if I want to direct the flow out of the SQWD opposing each other or direct the flows from the back of the tank to the front at the bottom of the rockwork. What do you think?

johnlewis · 01-16-2004, 06:19 PM

I think from the back to the front, that would give you some great movement keeping anything from setting before its picked up by filtration.

middletonmark · 01-16-2004, 07:04 PM

Now I just wish I had a shelf behind my tank for the pump .... as all these wisely have one that works just ideal.

Then again, I left 8" of space ... but GREAT info and ideas guys. Been thinking about this a while ... and this is now making me start to scheme.

jer-z-reefer · 03-16-2004, 10:59 PM

john
have you tried this setup, i had one like it, but didnt like having the "TEE" so closed to the pump,with 1 short line and one long line into the tank , Instead i moved my mag 12 to the back center of the tank, and had "even length" lines going back into the tank.
Jer-z

EdgeKrusher · 03-16-2004, 11:41 PM

Welcome Jer-z-reefer!

This is interesting. I'm in the planning stages of a new tank. I don't have alot of room so I was thinking a 30 or 40breeder. A closed loop is how I want to go. So far this has given me alot of ideas.

Is the 10x flow guidline still what I'm shooting for? how would I calculate head pressure?

Thanks

dwall174 · 03-17-2004, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by mojoreef
then up to a 1 1/2 Motorized ball valve. Each valve has 2 banks of inputs into the tank MIke

Do you have any links for the Motorized ball valves?
HERE'S one I came across! Seems a little pricey to me?

Also anyone know of any saltwater two speed pumps? Or a pump that can wired to a variable speed control? I’m trying to come up with a closed loop system that can be slowed down at night!

dwall174 · 03-17-2004, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EdgeKrusher
Is the 10x flow guidline still what I'm shooting for? how would I calculate head pressure?
Thanks

Here's some Plumbing Tips that will help you calculate your head pressure! As for the flow rate I’ve heard that 5~7 x the tank size is all that’s needed for the filtration! Most good closed loops that I’ve seen are running over 10 x the tanks volume by them self. So the combined flow would be like 25 x or more.

Pro_builder · 03-17-2004, 02:50 AM

I am running about 30X turn over in my 75 gallon tank, but only keeping SPS, BB and 2 anenomes.

wooddood · 03-17-2004, 06:28 AM

ok troy here's mine on the 120 still have neatin it up some when i get some spare time.

Scooterman · 03-17-2004, 07:52 AM

Nice wooddude, what you got on the second SCWD?
I just like to see good clean plumbing.

12-18-2003, 06:56 AM	#16 (permalink)
Taoism Tunicate Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 4 View Gallery Karma Komment	I don't think Mike counts for having a closed loop.... his is more like a "closed tidal pool" or perhaps "closed ocean loop" Cheers, Keith. __________________ "With great reefkeeping comes great responsibility"

12-18-2003, 10:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	looks good john thanks. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

12-18-2003, 01:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Looks good John. That setup is a lot like what I did. Except I ran my SWCD on the return. Not sure that I won't shange that to what you are showing here. I just want to figure out what size pump I want to use on the CLS system. Only want to buy one once. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

01-16-2004, 06:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
jks1 Achilles Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 876 View Gallery Karma Komment	Great ideas, ? I have two SQWDs for my 180. I was planning on running a little giant on the one overflow that is built into the tank- to the sump etc. I also have a Sedra 1200 (1200 gph) that I was going to set up as a closed loop with one of the SQWDS. Cant decide if I want to direct the flow out of the SQWD opposing each other or direct the flows from the back of the tank to the front at the bottom of the rockwork. What do you think? __________________ John Tank: 29g glass Pumps: Mag5.0 return - (3) rio 100 PHs Lighting: (1) 150w XM 10K/(2) 30W actinics Equipment: Aqua C Urchin skimmer- CPR Fuge, Titanium Heater -Red Sea wavemaster Pro Tank: 210g 1/2" Acrylic, dual overflows, 75g glass sump w/ 20g fuge. Pumps: Mag24 return - (2) MAG24s running 2 closed loop systems. Lighting: (3) 400w XM 10K/(2) Custom Sealife 96w PC - 25w dimmable incandescent Moonlight Equipment: Aqua C EV180 skimmer - CR500 calc reactor - Titanium Heater - AquaLogic single Stage Temp Controller - Aquanetics 1/5Hp Chiller - Neptune sys aquacontroller

01-16-2004, 07:04 PM	#23 (permalink)
middletonmark Star Polyps Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 165 View Gallery Karma Komment	Now I just wish I had a shelf behind my tank for the pump .... as all these wisely have one that works just ideal. Then again, I left 8" of space ... but GREAT info and ideas guys. Been thinking about this a while ... and this is now making me start to scheme. __________________ smile smile smile

12-18-2003, 10:43 AM	#17 (permalink)
johnlewis Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton, MI USA Posts: 448 View Gallery Karma Komment	Well here is my design as of today. It's been through a little rework recently after seeing some posts so it's a work in progress until my fish room is completed. This is for a 180 6' long all glass. I have one of the pumps a Via Aqua rated at 1160 gph, which I think will be on the closed loop because it does not have enough head pressure for the sump.

01-16-2004, 05:00 PM	#20 (permalink)
johnlewis Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton, MI USA Posts: 448 View Gallery Karma Komment	Here is the one I just put in my 55.

01-16-2004, 06:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
johnlewis Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton, MI USA Posts: 448 View Gallery Karma Komment	I think from the back to the front, that would give you some great movement keeping anything from setting before its picked up by filtration.

03-16-2004, 10:59 PM	#24 (permalink)
jer-z-reefer Tunicate Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 22 View Gallery Karma Komment	john have you tried this setup, i had one like it, but didnt like having the "TEE" so closed to the pump,with 1 short line and one long line into the tank , Instead i moved my mag 12 to the back center of the tank, and had "even length" lines going back into the tank. Jer-z

03-16-2004, 11:41 PM	#25 (permalink)
EdgeKrusher Plate Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN Posts: 716 View Gallery Karma Komment	Welcome Jer-z-reefer! This is interesting. I'm in the planning stages of a new tank. I don't have alot of room so I was thinking a 30 or 40breeder. A closed loop is how I want to go. So far this has given me alot of ideas. Is the 10x flow guidline still what I'm shooting for? how would I calculate head pressure? Thanks __________________ ((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸>< ((((º>¸¸.·´¯`·.¸. `·.. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º>¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.

03-17-2004, 02:50 AM	#28 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	I am running about 30X turn over in my 75 gallon tank, but only keeping SPS, BB and 2 anenomes. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

03-17-2004, 06:28 AM	#29 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	ok troy here's mine on the 120 still have neatin it up some when i get some spare time. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

03-17-2004, 07:52 AM	#30 (permalink)
Scooterman Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 1,184 View Gallery Karma Komment	Nice wooddude, what you got on the second SCWD? I just like to see good clean plumbing. __________________ Scott Ardoin (Ard-Dwan)

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