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Old 04-02-2008, 01:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yes the extra water counts for waste control but not for swimming room so yes and no.
Cleanup crews don't count if that is what you are referring to on bottom dwellers. If you are referring to gobys etc then they do count.
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Im gonna draw you what i am thinking....keep in mind I am a newb to alot of this.....but it will explain the LED rational....be right back
I have a 29 gallon biocube for picture reference
Sorry it took so long....but work is getting busy....dont laugh at my limited graphic art skillz LOL!!! What do you think?

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I have a 29 gallon biocube for picture reference
Sorry it took so long....but work is getting busy....dont laugh at my limited graphic art skillz LOL!!! What do you think?

I just converted the rear chambers of my 24g nanocube to a cheato fuge last night. See my post: Just chucked the sponge filters......

I used a clamp-on LED daylight/moonlight waterproof light for over the chamber. It's on a timer so it's only on like 8 hours a day. I'll look up the brand when I get home.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:32 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Yes the extra water counts for waste control but not for swimming room so yes and no.
Cleanup crews don't count if that is what you are referring to on bottom dwellers. If you are referring to gobys etc then they do count.
That is basically my question... Thanks. I didn't think of swimming room thugh. I was of the impression that the stocking limit was for waste control, but I guess that swimming room is in there too.

Sometimes I'm a bit of an idiot, I have a fresh tank and had to pass on a koi that I acquired "as a feeder" to start the tank. it outgrew the space but the filters handle the bio load from him and the other fish easily.

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I just converted the rear chambers of my 24g nanocube to a cheato fuge last night. See my post: Just chucked the sponge filters......

I used a clamp-on LED daylight/moonlight waterproof light for over the chamber. It's on a timer so it's only on like 8 hours a day. I'll look up the brand when I get home.
It has been my experience that LED's are essentially useless for plant growth. They tend to be monochromatic or at best, very narrow spectrum. there have been many that have tried to grow with LEDs and have not had success. There's a concept that light (in air) diminishes by the square of the distance to the source. If your diodes are a foot away, you are going to lose a lot of the light, and even more through water. Compact flouros seem to be the way to go as far as heat, spectrum and penetration. I have grown really nice plants with nothing but flouros, you just need to keep the lamps close...

I guess I've answered my own question eh?

Hoping to tap into some experience and save myself some potential headaches.

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It has been my experience that LED's are essentially useless for plant growth. They tend to be monochromatic or at best, very narrow spectrum. there have been many that have tried to grow with LEDs and have not had success. There's a concept that light (in air) diminishes by the square of the distance to the source. If your diodes are a foot away, you are going to lose a lot of the light, and even more through water. Compact flouros seem to be the way to go as far as heat, spectrum and penetration. I have grown really nice plants with nothing but flouros, you just need to keep the lamps close...

I guess I've answered my own question eh?

Hoping to tap into some experience and save myself some potential headaches.

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I think this is why i am going to have them in the water with the chaeto!! I figure one on both sides with work.....
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for 8 bucks at home depot,you can get the NVision brand cf spotlight. blue package. 6500k 65w. i've been using them for a while and the growth is awesome.
King, I just picked up the same bulb. Glad You like it! My LOA The flood light died on me & I was ready to try something else.
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Update on the LEDs, definitely not bright enough picked up a flood and energy saver bulb.....much better now need some chaeto!!!
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