drilling glass

skeletor121 · 11-24-2003, 04:02 PM

I just picked up a used 150 gallon Glass Tank yesterday. I have a lot of work to fix it up, but got a bunch of stuff with it and got it at a good price. It does not have any holes drilled into it yet, but came with a HOT overflow that he used for a long time w/out problems. After reading a bunch of posts on different forums, including here, I think that drilling corner overflows would be the best way to go. I have no experience in this, since I have no overflows or sumps in any of my other FW tanks. How easy is it to get the holes drilled? How big should the holes be? Do I only need 2 holes drilled (one in each corner)? Do I need to drill a hole for the return? The setup that came with it just had the return come over the top. I don't mind doing it this way, but want to make sure there is a reason not to go along with his return setup. How many holes, total, will I need to drill? What are the locations for all the holes? I'm probably going to have someone else drill the holes because I don't want to ruin a nice tank. The dimensions of the tank are as follows: 60Lx24wx24h. The stand that came with it does have holes drilled in the corners which I am guessing are for the overflows to come down into a sump. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

mwrager · 11-24-2003, 04:10 PM

I would get two hole drilled in each corner. one for the supply and one for the return. As for some one to do the drilling i would contact your local LFS, they sould be able to help. As to the size mine are 1 inch holes and they work for me.

SZHTTM · 11-24-2003, 04:13 PM

As far as drilling, you first have to make sure that the glass sections you decide to drill the holes into is not made of tempered glass. Tempered glass will shatter as soon as you start drilling. Some aquairums come with this type of glass on the bottom. So try your best to identify this if at all possible.

Some of my local fish stores (LFS) drill the holes for you for about $20 a hole. Or, maybe some local glass cutting stores could do this for you also.

As far as how many, for a 150, I would have to recommend a total of four holes. Two drains and two returns. One of each should be as far apart as possbile. For example, one drain and one return near the back glass and close to the side glass of each side.

Something else to consider before drilling...be sure you know exactly how big of a hole you want. For example, of you want a 1" hole, then you need to drill a 1 3/4 inch hole to accomodate the bulkhead that has a 1" opening. Also make sure that the hole is drilled far enough from the glass on the back, side, and or adjacent hole to allow the bulkhead to fit properly.

Good Luck;

skeletor121 · 11-24-2003, 04:46 PM

I'm still not 100% sure that I want to drill the holes. The more I find out about it, the more problems could arise. I'm not gonna set up the tank until summer so I have some time to work on it. I may just try to use the HOT first. Too many decisions.

EdgeKrusher · 11-24-2003, 04:50 PM

Take it to a local glass shop. I'm sure they'll drill the holes the size you want and where you want them for a decent price. That way if they mess it up they owe you a new tank and you wont be SOL. Not that they mess these things up, they're Pros. Just an Idea.

HTH

Bill

mwrager · 11-24-2003, 04:51 PM

If you are going to drill them, do it before you set it up. I have 2 tanks drilled and 2 tanks that are not. Why i like my tank to be drilled is i can set the tank closer to the wall. Also the water noise on my drilled tanks seem to be less

Dennis7 · 11-25-2003, 02:20 AM

I would go with a drilled tank. You won't be sorry. Like everyone recommended, use 1" drains which require 1 3/4" holes. You could go 2 in each corner, or do 2 drain hiles in middle back of tank and returns in corners of the back. The setup is limitless, it all depends what you want. My 120 gal has 7 holes drilled in it. 2 for in the center for the overflow, 2 holes , one in each corner for returns, 2 for returns for closed loop and 1 for pick-up on closed loop.

wooddood · 11-25-2003, 04:53 AM

im thinking about doing the same thing.im like you though its a little scary.good luck on your decision though.

jks1 · 11-25-2003, 08:38 PM

can somebody take a pic of the back of their drilled tank, mine is a 75g, so i can get an idea of location for the holes. Thanks in advance

wooddood · 12-02-2003, 03:15 PM

i dont think anybody that drills the holes for you will guarantee the job like stated above.i would definately check that part out first.that is just what i have heard.hth. dave.

Pro_builder · 12-02-2003, 11:24 PM

you could also go with a center overflow and run 1 1 1/2 hole and 2 1" for return. That would only make you have to drill 3 holes and you can point your return lines into each corner or however you want. It will make the water flow in the tank more turbulant and better for corals.
That is what I did for a 220 Display tank.
I will try to get you pictures of it in a few days.
JMO

skeletor121 · 12-03-2003, 10:54 AM

Looking forward to seeing the pics.

pista01 · 12-04-2003, 10:32 PM

I would like to see the pics too. I was thinking of a center overflow as well for my 75, mostly because I don't want to see the overflows in the corner.

11-24-2003, 04:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
skeletor121 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 60 View Gallery Karma Komment	drilling glass I just picked up a used 150 gallon Glass Tank yesterday. I have a lot of work to fix it up, but got a bunch of stuff with it and got it at a good price. It does not have any holes drilled into it yet, but came with a HOT overflow that he used for a long time w/out problems. After reading a bunch of posts on different forums, including here, I think that drilling corner overflows would be the best way to go. I have no experience in this, since I have no overflows or sumps in any of my other FW tanks. How easy is it to get the holes drilled? How big should the holes be? Do I only need 2 holes drilled (one in each corner)? Do I need to drill a hole for the return? The setup that came with it just had the return come over the top. I don't mind doing it this way, but want to make sure there is a reason not to go along with his return setup. How many holes, total, will I need to drill? What are the locations for all the holes? I'm probably going to have someone else drill the holes because I don't want to ruin a nice tank. The dimensions of the tank are as follows: 60Lx24wx24h. The stand that came with it does have holes drilled in the corners which I am guessing are for the overflows to come down into a sump. Any help would be greatly appreciated. __________________ -Scott Don't need no gang to watch my a**, Just loyal friendship and a pint of Bass!. -Dropkick Murphy's

11-24-2003, 04:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
mwrager Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert AZ Posts: 1,068 View Gallery Karma Komment	I would get two hole drilled in each corner. one for the supply and one for the return. As for some one to do the drilling i would contact your local LFS, they sould be able to help. As to the size mine are 1 inch holes and they work for me. __________________ Mark Some days I realy feel old! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner3.gif

11-24-2003, 04:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
skeletor121 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 60 View Gallery Karma Komment	I'm still not 100% sure that I want to drill the holes. The more I find out about it, the more problems could arise. I'm not gonna set up the tank until summer so I have some time to work on it. I may just try to use the HOT first. Too many decisions. __________________ -Scott Don't need no gang to watch my a**, Just loyal friendship and a pint of Bass!. -Dropkick Murphy's

11-24-2003, 04:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
EdgeKrusher Plate Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN Posts: 716 View Gallery Karma Komment	Take it to a local glass shop. I'm sure they'll drill the holes the size you want and where you want them for a decent price. That way if they mess it up they owe you a new tank and you wont be SOL. Not that they mess these things up, they're Pros. Just an Idea. HTH Bill __________________ ((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸>< ((((º>¸¸.·´¯`·.¸. `·.. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º>¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.

11-24-2003, 04:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
mwrager Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert AZ Posts: 1,068 View Gallery Karma Komment	If you are going to drill them, do it before you set it up. I have 2 tanks drilled and 2 tanks that are not. Why i like my tank to be drilled is i can set the tank closer to the wall. Also the water noise on my drilled tanks seem to be less __________________ Mark Some days I realy feel old! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner3.gif

11-24-2003, 04:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
SZHTTM Serpent Star Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Davie, FL. (South Florida) Posts: 203 View Gallery Karma Komment	As far as drilling, you first have to make sure that the glass sections you decide to drill the holes into is not made of tempered glass. Tempered glass will shatter as soon as you start drilling. Some aquairums come with this type of glass on the bottom. So try your best to identify this if at all possible. Some of my local fish stores (LFS) drill the holes for you for about $20 a hole. Or, maybe some local glass cutting stores could do this for you also. As far as how many, for a 150, I would have to recommend a total of four holes. Two drains and two returns. One of each should be as far apart as possbile. For example, one drain and one return near the back glass and close to the side glass of each side. Something else to consider before drilling...be sure you know exactly how big of a hole you want. For example, of you want a 1" hole, then you need to drill a 1 3/4 inch hole to accomodate the bulkhead that has a 1" opening. Also make sure that the hole is drilled far enough from the glass on the back, side, and or adjacent hole to allow the bulkhead to fit properly. Good Luck;

11-25-2003, 02:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dennis7 Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 190 View Gallery Karma Komment	I would go with a drilled tank. You won't be sorry. Like everyone recommended, use 1" drains which require 1 3/4" holes. You could go 2 in each corner, or do 2 drain hiles in middle back of tank and returns in corners of the back. The setup is limitless, it all depends what you want. My 120 gal has 7 holes drilled in it. 2 for in the center for the overflow, 2 holes , one in each corner for returns, 2 for returns for closed loop and 1 for pick-up on closed loop. __________________ Dennis 120 gal/tank, custom overflow in center, closed-loop on a Squid, custom sump,Reef Concepts skimmer, CA reactor, Refugium gravity feed into tank, Lighting: 2 - 250 watt MH's, 4- 55 watt PC's, and 110 watt VHO. 12 gal NanoCube, with 2-32 watt PC's and a 13 watt PC, in a custom hood.

11-25-2003, 04:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	im thinking about doing the same thing.im like you though its a little scary.good luck on your decision though. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

11-25-2003, 08:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
jks1 Achilles Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 876 View Gallery Karma Komment	can somebody take a pic of the back of their drilled tank, mine is a 75g, so i can get an idea of location for the holes. Thanks in advance __________________ John Tank: 29g glass Pumps: Mag5.0 return - (3) rio 100 PHs Lighting: (1) 150w XM 10K/(2) 30W actinics Equipment: Aqua C Urchin skimmer- CPR Fuge, Titanium Heater -Red Sea wavemaster Pro Tank: 210g 1/2" Acrylic, dual overflows, 75g glass sump w/ 20g fuge. Pumps: Mag24 return - (2) MAG24s running 2 closed loop systems. Lighting: (3) 400w XM 10K/(2) Custom Sealife 96w PC - 25w dimmable incandescent Moonlight Equipment: Aqua C EV180 skimmer - CR500 calc reactor - Titanium Heater - AquaLogic single Stage Temp Controller - Aquanetics 1/5Hp Chiller - Neptune sys aquacontroller

12-02-2003, 03:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	i dont think anybody that drills the holes for you will guarantee the job like stated above.i would definately check that part out first.that is just what i have heard.hth. dave. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

12-02-2003, 11:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	you could also go with a center overflow and run 1 1 1/2 hole and 2 1" for return. That would only make you have to drill 3 holes and you can point your return lines into each corner or however you want. It will make the water flow in the tank more turbulant and better for corals. That is what I did for a 220 Display tank. I will try to get you pictures of it in a few days. JMO __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

12-03-2003, 10:54 AM	#12 (permalink)
skeletor121 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 60 View Gallery Karma Komment	Looking forward to seeing the pics. __________________ -Scott Don't need no gang to watch my a**, Just loyal friendship and a pint of Bass!. -Dropkick Murphy's

12-04-2003, 10:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
pista01 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Taylor, Mi Posts: 83 View Gallery Karma Komment	I would like to see the pics too. I was thinking of a center overflow as well for my 75, mostly because I don't want to see the overflows in the corner.

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