Sump Question

snelly50 · 02-12-2007, 01:20 PM

I have access to all the lexan I need (free). I have a machine shop that will cut it for me. Should I just buy a 10gal tank and make it into a sump or try to customized one from scratch?? This way I could make a 15-20gal that would fit under my 55gal and copy some of the nice ones that I've seen on here. I'm pretty handy with tools but I was wondering if it's worth the aggrevation and worrying about leaks.

Woodstock · 02-12-2007, 01:23 PM

Per Billyr98, it is easy to do with the right tools.

He is making a custom kalkwasser reservoir for me. He made his awesome frag tank ; look in the DIY forum.

Woodstock · 02-12-2007, 01:25 PM

DIY Frag Tank!!

It was Billy and Pete that made it (sorry Pete

)

pmac90 · 02-12-2007, 01:28 PM

Free Lexan!?! build away! Just make sure a glue such as weld-on 4 and 16 is applicable with lexan (stonger then plexi). No Worries about leaks ... the glue will actually weld the 2 pieces together, as in melt them to make one!!

pmac90 · 02-12-2007, 01:29 PM

You're lucky you caught yourself! I'll be in on the kalk res build... and will probably be glue man! I might of just missed a corner if you forgot me

snelly50 · 02-12-2007, 02:35 PM

My son has already odered the Weldon #4 and #16. I just need to get hold of a few pair of large clamps. I'm checking out all the neat sites with various designs. I might upgrade my skimmer at the same time

pmac90 · 02-12-2007, 02:46 PM

Great, just double check to make sure that the weld-on products "melt" lexan like they do acrylic. I'm sure it will but want to be positive. Also, take a test piece and see if you can use a router on it. Build it with overhangs then use a flush trim bit and buzz it perfect!

snelly50 · 02-21-2007, 10:44 PM

Here's my latest design. I think this is what you guys meant. I still have the return coming from the sump rather than the fuge because I'm more concerned with water clarity than the micro fauna. Does this make sense ??
I posted the picture but I'm not sure how to get it here.

BrothaWolf · 02-21-2007, 11:03 PM

I saw your new design. Much better. You may want to add one more T and run another line that dumps water right back into your return section. One question why are you plumbing the fuge return all the way back to the intake section instead of just dumping it back down into the return section?

snelly50 · 02-21-2007, 11:10 PM

Do you mean a T off of the input line to the return section ?? I figured the fuge should dump into the skimmer section to cut down ont he bubbles being returned to the tank. Isn't that why the baffles are there ?

I appreiciate all your help

BrothaWolf · 02-21-2007, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snelly50

Do you mean a T off of the input line to the return section ?? I figured the fuge should dump into the skimmer section to cut down ont he bubbles being returned to the tank. Isn't that why the baffles are there ?

I appreiciate all your help

No it would be a second T on the return line to create a recirculation line... either above or below the T to the fuge it doesnt matter and another ball valve. That way you can set flow to the fuge anyway you want and use the second T/ball valve to adjust flow back to the display. The baffles are there to eliminate bubbles from your skimmer. You wont be getting any bubbles from the fuge so the extra plumbing is superfluous
Here is a cleaner shot of my plumbing and what Im talking about...

snelly50 · 02-21-2007, 11:23 PM

AWWW......the light just went on !! Makes alot of sense. I'll sketch it out again tomorrow. What size tubing is that ??...looks like 1"

BrothaWolf · 02-21-2007, 11:38 PM

A I guess a picture really is worth 1000 words lol Its 3/4" pvc and 3/4" loc-line I have a Y reducer in the fuge that splits to dual 1/2" loc-line so I can put the flow anywhere I want

02-12-2007, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
snelly50 Tubeworm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 36 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sump Question I have access to all the lexan I need (free). I have a machine shop that will cut it for me. Should I just buy a 10gal tank and make it into a sump or try to customized one from scratch?? This way I could make a 15-20gal that would fit under my 55gal and copy some of the nice ones that I've seen on here. I'm pretty handy with tools but I was wondering if it's worth the aggrevation and worrying about leaks. __________________ Red Sea Max 34 Gal Tank 40lbs Fiji Rock 20lbs live sand 1 sm. Yellow Tang 2 Maroon Clowns 1 Domino Damsel 1 Cleaner Shrimp Bubble-tip Anemone FrogSpawn Torch Coral Grn Mushrooms Zoos Last edited by snelly50 : 02-12-2007 at 07:24 PM.

02-12-2007, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,663 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question Per Billyr98, it is easy to do with the right tools. He is making a custom kalkwasser reservoir for me. He made his awesome frag tank ; look in the DIY forum. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* 120 Reef Chronicle ~ *Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* *Massive 300 gal growout~* *My Anemone & Picasso Tank ~* *Picasso & Snowcasso for sale~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________

02-12-2007, 01:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,663 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question DIY Frag Tank!! It was Billy and Pete that made it (sorry Pete ) __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* 120 Reef Chronicle ~ *Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* *Massive 300 gal growout~* *My Anemone & Picasso Tank ~* *Picasso & Snowcasso for sale~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________

02-12-2007, 01:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
pmac90 Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bristol, PA Posts: 371 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question Free Lexan!?! build away! Just make sure a glue such as weld-on 4 and 16 is applicable with lexan (stonger then plexi). No Worries about leaks ... the glue will actually weld the 2 pieces together, as in melt them to make one!! __________________ Pete 90 all glass leathers, hammer, frogspawn, trumpets, trachy shrooms, gsp, plate, xenia, buttons, gonipora.... clown goby, hippo, 6-line, scopas, ocellaris... 90 lbs live rock 3" sand bed double sump ASM G1 UV - Member NJRC-

02-12-2007, 01:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
pmac90 Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bristol, PA Posts: 371 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question You're lucky you caught yourself! I'll be in on the kalk res build... and will probably be glue man! I might of just missed a corner if you forgot me __________________ Pete 90 all glass leathers, hammer, frogspawn, trumpets, trachy shrooms, gsp, plate, xenia, buttons, gonipora.... clown goby, hippo, 6-line, scopas, ocellaris... 90 lbs live rock 3" sand bed double sump ASM G1 UV - Member NJRC-

02-12-2007, 02:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
snelly50 Tubeworm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 36 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sump Question My son has already odered the Weldon #4 and #16. I just need to get hold of a few pair of large clamps. I'm checking out all the neat sites with various designs. I might upgrade my skimmer at the same time __________________ Red Sea Max 34 Gal Tank 40lbs Fiji Rock 20lbs live sand 1 sm. Yellow Tang 2 Maroon Clowns 1 Domino Damsel 1 Cleaner Shrimp Bubble-tip Anemone FrogSpawn Torch Coral Grn Mushrooms Zoos

02-12-2007, 02:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
pmac90 Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bristol, PA Posts: 371 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question Great, just double check to make sure that the weld-on products "melt" lexan like they do acrylic. I'm sure it will but want to be positive. Also, take a test piece and see if you can use a router on it. Build it with overhangs then use a flush trim bit and buzz it perfect! __________________ Pete 90 all glass leathers, hammer, frogspawn, trumpets, trachy shrooms, gsp, plate, xenia, buttons, gonipora.... clown goby, hippo, 6-line, scopas, ocellaris... 90 lbs live rock 3" sand bed double sump ASM G1 UV - Member NJRC-

02-21-2007, 10:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
snelly50 Tubeworm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 36 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sump Question Here's my latest design. I think this is what you guys meant. I still have the return coming from the sump rather than the fuge because I'm more concerned with water clarity than the micro fauna. Does this make sense ?? I posted the picture but I'm not sure how to get it here. __________________ Red Sea Max 34 Gal Tank 40lbs Fiji Rock 20lbs live sand 1 sm. Yellow Tang 2 Maroon Clowns 1 Domino Damsel 1 Cleaner Shrimp Bubble-tip Anemone FrogSpawn Torch Coral Grn Mushrooms Zoos

02-21-2007, 11:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
BrothaWolf Acropora Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,798 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question I saw your new design. Much better. You may want to add one more T and run another line that dumps water right back into your return section. One question why are you plumbing the fuge return all the way back to the intake section instead of just dumping it back down into the return section? __________________ 75 Gal AGA Nano - 115lbs LR 140lbs LS Tunze 6025 x 3 40 gal DIY Sump/fuge 20lb LS 26lb LR Outer Orbit 150 HQI Mh x 2, 54w T5 x 4, 18 moons, ASM G3 Mated pair Yashia Gobies (seperated) and Red Band Pistol Shrimp, True Percula, Purple Fire Fish, Yellow Clown Goby, Orange Back Fairy Wrasse, Barber Pole Goby, Blood Shrimp, Crocea Clam, Scarlet Hermits, Cerith, Nassarius, Nerite and Margarita Snails (hold the salt) Zoas, Rics & Shrooms, Xenia, Hammer & Frog Spawn, Star Polyps, Blasto, Blue Anthelia, Lord Acans 29 Gal Oceanic Bio Cube- 40lbs LR 30lbs LS Sapphire Skimmer, DIY Nanotuners 4.36 Lighting, DIY Moonlights, DIY Mod CPR Refugium Randalls Goby, Zoa's ,Trach,Shrooms President: Crabs Make Me Itch Society

02-21-2007, 11:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
snelly50 Tubeworm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 36 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sump Question Do you mean a T off of the input line to the return section ?? I figured the fuge should dump into the skimmer section to cut down ont he bubbles being returned to the tank. Isn't that why the baffles are there ? I appreiciate all your help __________________ Red Sea Max 34 Gal Tank 40lbs Fiji Rock 20lbs live sand 1 sm. Yellow Tang 2 Maroon Clowns 1 Domino Damsel 1 Cleaner Shrimp Bubble-tip Anemone FrogSpawn Torch Coral Grn Mushrooms Zoos

02-21-2007, 11:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
snelly50 Tubeworm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 36 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sump Question AWWW......the light just went on !! Makes alot of sense. I'll sketch it out again tomorrow. What size tubing is that ??...looks like 1" __________________ Red Sea Max 34 Gal Tank 40lbs Fiji Rock 20lbs live sand 1 sm. Yellow Tang 2 Maroon Clowns 1 Domino Damsel 1 Cleaner Shrimp Bubble-tip Anemone FrogSpawn Torch Coral Grn Mushrooms Zoos

02-21-2007, 11:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
BrothaWolf Acropora Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,798 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question A I guess a picture really is worth 1000 words lol Its 3/4" pvc and 3/4" loc-line I have a Y reducer in the fuge that splits to dual 1/2" loc-line so I can put the flow anywhere I want __________________ 75 Gal AGA Nano - 115lbs LR 140lbs LS Tunze 6025 x 3 40 gal DIY Sump/fuge 20lb LS 26lb LR Outer Orbit 150 HQI Mh x 2, 54w T5 x 4, 18 moons, ASM G3 Mated pair Yashia Gobies (seperated) and Red Band Pistol Shrimp, True Percula, Purple Fire Fish, Yellow Clown Goby, Orange Back Fairy Wrasse, Barber Pole Goby, Blood Shrimp, Crocea Clam, Scarlet Hermits, Cerith, Nassarius, Nerite and Margarita Snails (hold the salt) Zoas, Rics & Shrooms, Xenia, Hammer & Frog Spawn, Star Polyps, Blasto, Blue Anthelia, Lord Acans 29 Gal Oceanic Bio Cube- 40lbs LR 30lbs LS Sapphire Skimmer, DIY Nanotuners 4.36 Lighting, DIY Moonlights, DIY Mod CPR Refugium Randalls Goby, Zoa's ,Trach,Shrooms President: Crabs Make Me Itch Society

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