new project, filtration advice please. - Page 3

boozeman · 07-10-2007, 04:05 PM

...would you consider doing something to the four posts so that they don't look like just plain 2x4's slapped on to the sides?...maybe grinding the profile to something thinner?
maybe like the edge of a flying saucer

and the tops coming up to a point that supports a lid thats lighted on the underside so that it apears to glow from within...oops sorry if I'm getting carried away

Dentoid · 07-10-2007, 05:46 PM

I say shape it like the Washington Monument, an obelisk! Make sure you put a blinking light at the apex to warn passing planes!

fasterstill · 07-10-2007, 05:57 PM

Sorry guys its just getting toped off with frosted perspex.
But how about how to use a 230lt container and a 7000lth pump to the get the best filter?

fasterstill · 07-11-2007, 02:07 PM

Ok so you can all start laughting now................IT LEAKS.

:smck:

The pressure at 7 feet depth poped the 20mm thick perspex sides out of there seat in the frame uprights. The silicon held although the panel moved out a full 5mm, bloody good stuff realy, but still got a few leaks.
Anyone know of anything thats pourable and bonds to acrilic?
Thinking of resin or epoxy.......... I'll tip the tank on its side and pour it down the corners after popping the panel back in place and making that more secure.
Don't surpose theres anything like pourable silicon?

boozeman · 07-11-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fasterstill

Ok so you can all start laughting now

NEVER

did you silicone the plexi to the wood? if that is the case then the difference in expansion rates will always cause a leak somewhere down the line

fasterstill · 07-11-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boozeman

NEVER

did you silicone the plexi to the wood? if that is the case then the difference in expansion rates will always cause a leak somewhere down the line

Wood was encapsulated in resin first, so no expansion there. Also along the line of maximium force the wood is 5" deep so its never going to bend it that direction.

Dentoid · 07-11-2007, 06:18 PM

That's too bad. It really did look like it was going to hold water at the very least. Well, back to the ole drawing board. BTW, throughout history many geniuses were laughed at.

DrHank · 07-11-2007, 06:34 PM

Other than live rock, Hair algae, and cyano bacteria, what do you plan in the way of livestock to you plan to put in this tank. Please excuse me if I have missed the purpose of this tank(?).

boozeman · 07-11-2007, 06:54 PM

can you re-do it all over and this time use some sort of brace to physicaly hold the plexi in place like a small metal channel or maybe even if you take a saw and cut a channel into the wood suports for the plastic to sit into and then silicone?

Dentoid · 07-11-2007, 06:59 PM

Can't you just have an acrylic fabrcator cast that in one piece?

boozeman · 07-11-2007, 07:28 PM

no, he needs the wood to hold/conceal the LED aray

Dentoid · 07-11-2007, 07:34 PM

The wood can still be there as decorative trim and to conceal the LEDs.

Frankie · 07-11-2007, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boozeman

can you re-do it all over and this time use some sort of brace to physicaly hold the plexi in place like a small metal channel or maybe even if you take a saw and cut a channel into the wood suports for the plastic to sit into and then silicone?

Thats a good idea NY. channels all the way will hold it for sure.
Sorry it leaked man! You will get it right. You got this far don't give up.

lcstorc · 07-12-2007, 04:26 AM

Aw that stinks. I was anxiously waiting to see how this turned out, Now I have to wait more.
Unfortunately I don't have any advice just sympathy. This is a very interresting project and I would love to see it work.

fasterstill · 07-12-2007, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boozeman

can you re-do it all over and this time use some sort of brace to physicaly hold the plexi in place like a small metal channel or maybe even if you take a saw and cut a channel into the wood suports for the plastic to sit into and then silicone?

Thats what i did, the uprights have channels routed into them but i put too much silicone in to one and the acrilic sheet did,nt go far enougth in, thats why it moved under pressure and poped out of the channel.

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boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: new project, filtration advice please. ...would you consider doing something to the four posts so that they don't look like just plain 2x4's slapped on to the sides?...maybe grinding the profile to something thinner? maybe like the edge of a flying saucer and the tops coming up to a point that supports a lid thats lighted on the underside so that it apears to glow from within...oops sorry if I'm getting carried away __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

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Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,762 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new project, filtration advice please. I say shape it like the Washington Monument, an obelisk! Make sure you put a blinking light at the apex to warn passing planes! __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

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fasterstill Tubeworm Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 27 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new project, filtration advice please. Sorry guys its just getting toped off with frosted perspex. But how about how to use a 230lt container and a 7000lth pump to the get the best filter?

07-11-2007, 02:07 PM	#34 (permalink)
fasterstill Tubeworm Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 27 View Gallery Karma Komment	Help, help help....Leak!!!!! Ok so you can all start laughting now................IT LEAKS. :smck: The pressure at 7 feet depth poped the 20mm thick perspex sides out of there seat in the frame uprights. The silicon held although the panel moved out a full 5mm, bloody good stuff realy, but still got a few leaks. Anyone know of anything thats pourable and bonds to acrilic? Thinking of resin or epoxy.......... I'll tip the tank on its side and pour it down the corners after popping the panel back in place and making that more secure. Don't surpose theres anything like pourable silicon?

07-11-2007, 06:18 PM	#37 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,762 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new project, filtration advice please. That's too bad. It really did look like it was going to hold water at the very least. Well, back to the ole drawing board. BTW, throughout history many geniuses were laughed at. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

07-11-2007, 06:34 PM	#38 (permalink)
DrHank Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 2,284 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new project, filtration advice please. Other than live rock, Hair algae, and cyano bacteria, what do you plan in the way of livestock to you plan to put in this tank. Please excuse me if I have missed the purpose of this tank(?). __________________ Doc Dr Hank's 210 Build: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nks-tanks.html

07-11-2007, 06:54 PM	#39 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: new project, filtration advice please. can you re-do it all over and this time use some sort of brace to physicaly hold the plexi in place like a small metal channel or maybe even if you take a saw and cut a channel into the wood suports for the plastic to sit into and then silicone? __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

07-11-2007, 06:59 PM	#40 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,762 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new project, filtration advice please. Can't you just have an acrylic fabrcator cast that in one piece? __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

07-11-2007, 07:28 PM	#41 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: new project, filtration advice please. no, he needs the wood to hold/conceal the LED aray __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

07-11-2007, 07:34 PM	#42 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,762 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new project, filtration advice please. The wood can still be there as decorative trim and to conceal the LEDs. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 21,907 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: new project, filtration advice please. Aw that stinks. I was anxiously waiting to see how this turned out, Now I have to wait more. Unfortunately I don't have any advice just sympathy. This is a very interresting project and I would love to see it work. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

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