1st Genetically engineered aquarium fish

tankgirl · 01-03-2004, 10:58 PM

In fact, the article says it's the 1st genetically engineered pet. Here's the info;
http://www.boston.com/news/science/a...der_the_radar/

Most interesting to me, it said it was crossed with genes of a type of coral.

SaltyQueen · 01-03-2004, 11:15 PM

let's hope it's a fad that dies out quick- too many "what if's" for my liking

RanRoc · 01-03-2004, 11:48 PM

I believe I saw those for sale in Aquatic-Eco Systems catalog (the big one with like 500 pages). It showed two types...I wish I still had the catalog.
-RY

Cougra · 01-03-2004, 11:58 PM

If the Glo-fish are the first genetically engineered pet I wonder what they classify fish like the freshwater Parrot fish as?

sorcerer · 01-04-2004, 12:41 AM

The distinction they are drawing for the "first genetically engineered pet" is that these are supposed to have been created by gene splicing from another species as opposed to selective breeding of a given species or set of subspecies to produce specific traits. There are a world of freshwater fish that were produced through selective breeding which really is the very basic gnetic engineering, FWIW.

sharks · 01-04-2004, 02:50 AM

I love them but yeah at that price they will be a fad. We sell them for 9.99 a pair even though our distributor said retail price should be more like 12-14 each! Yeah right

I have no issue since they can’t live locally here in the US and are not harmful to people or other tank mates If eaten. That and the fact that FW fish have been selectively breed for centuries. Does anyone think fancy goldfish suit a purpose in nature other the just being that ugly

And yet my 220 was full of orandas at one point.
Here is some info not mentioned…
Going by memory so forgive me

The engineered fish were first designed in Singapore. And sold to aquarists there last year.
The Asian strain is sterile in order to keep the patent and corner the market.
I believe I read somewhere that the US strain is different in that it can be bread and unless you are breeding large numbers to resell the paten owners are Ok with it.
Here is a quick link to one of the 2 patent owners site….
http://www.segrestfarms.com/go.ihtml...nc=glofish_faq

And look for the brief article in TFH magazine from Jan 2004
Just my .02
S

tankgirl · 01-04-2004, 08:00 AM

Thanks, everyone! Great thoughts and info!!!
I read that they've been banned in Ca, on principle.

ScottT1980 · 01-04-2004, 09:37 AM

That "glo" gene is becoming the new thing (well, the new consumer "thing") as I have seen it used in various crops and rodent species in the past (including rabbits).

Will the glofish be a slippery slope, we will just have to see?

TG, Canada or California banned them?

Take er easy
Scott T.

tankgirl · 01-04-2004, 09:44 AM

Hi Scott,
California banned them last month, apparently.

nivek · 01-04-2004, 10:06 AM

Agent Mulder would definitely treat them as an X-file case

01-03-2004, 10:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
tankgirl Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: So. Ca Posts: 1,476 View Gallery Karma Komment	1st Genetically engineered aquarium fish In fact, the article says it's the 1st genetically engineered pet. Here's the info; http://www.boston.com/news/science/a...der_the_radar/ Most interesting to me, it said it was crossed with genes of a type of coral.

01-03-2004, 11:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
RanRoc Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central Florida: GO KNIGHTS!!! Posts: 443 View Gallery Karma Komment	I believe I saw those for sale in Aquatic-Eco Systems catalog (the big one with like 500 pages). It showed two types...I wish I still had the catalog. -RY __________________ My Disclaimer for any Advice I Give: I Could Be Wrong... Randy's Rockin' Reef MANGROVE ROOT GANG

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sorcerer Court Computer Wiz Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nashville,TN Posts: 252 View Gallery Karma Komment	The distinction they are drawing for the "first genetically engineered pet" is that these are supposed to have been created by gene splicing from another species as opposed to selective breeding of a given species or set of subspecies to produce specific traits. There are a world of freshwater fish that were produced through selective breeding which really is the very basic gnetic engineering, FWIW. __________________ ------------ walt --------------------- ...and I thought woodworking was an expensive hobby..... 75G Oceanic Reef Tank, 30G Acrylic sump, 12G fuge, AquaC EV-120 skimmer, AquaMedic Kalkwasser Reactor, Mag 12 return pump, FlexiFlow dosing pump. 2-250W AB 10,000K MH, 2 95W Actinic VHO Sorcerer's Home Office Reef - 12G JBJ Nanocube, Minijet 606 pump, 50W heater, 12lbs LR ----------- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner4.gif

01-04-2004, 02:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
sharks Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 843 View Gallery Karma Komment	I love them but yeah at that price they will be a fad. We sell them for 9.99 a pair even though our distributor said retail price should be more like 12-14 each! Yeah right I have no issue since they can’t live locally here in the US and are not harmful to people or other tank mates If eaten. That and the fact that FW fish have been selectively breed for centuries. Does anyone think fancy goldfish suit a purpose in nature other the just being that ugly And yet my 220 was full of orandas at one point. Here is some info not mentioned… Going by memory so forgive me The engineered fish were first designed in Singapore. And sold to aquarists there last year. The Asian strain is sterile in order to keep the patent and corner the market. I believe I read somewhere that the US strain is different in that it can be bread and unless you are breeding large numbers to resell the paten owners are Ok with it. Here is a quick link to one of the 2 patent owners site…. http://www.segrestfarms.com/go.ihtml...nc=glofish_faq And look for the brief article in TFH magazine from Jan 2004 Just my .02 S __________________ The sea monkey has my money 220G fish only tank ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 120G Reef 2 250W 65K MH’s. 2 VHO Actinics LifeReef filter/skimmer/20G REF 200LB Kaelini Rock . 2-3” DSB. Various, LPS, SPS, clams, leathers, and others Numerous fish ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> View my Photo Gallery><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>

01-03-2004, 11:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
SaltyQueen Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 400 View Gallery Karma Komment	let's hope it's a fad that dies out quick- too many "what if's" for my liking

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tankgirl Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: So. Ca Posts: 1,476 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanks, everyone! Great thoughts and info!!! I read that they've been banned in Ca, on principle. Last edited by tankgirl : 01-04-2004 at 09:23 AM.

01-04-2004, 09:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
ScottT1980 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,484 View Gallery Karma Komment	That "glo" gene is becoming the new thing (well, the new consumer "thing") as I have seen it used in various crops and rodent species in the past (including rabbits). Will the glofish be a slippery slope, we will just have to see? TG, Canada or California banned them? Take er easy Scott T. __________________ My Tank

01-04-2004, 09:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
tankgirl Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: So. Ca Posts: 1,476 View Gallery Karma Komment	Hi Scott, California banned them last month, apparently.

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