First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit?

goody · 09-20-2008, 02:58 PM

I'm going to try and frag my duncan that has 22 heads. After some reading it sounds like using a dremel is the best tool. What kind of bit and at what speed do I cut through it? Currently I have some reinforced cut-off wheel bits for plastic, metal, and/or wood. Would these work and if so, do I put the dremel at high or low speed and do I cut through quickly or slowly? I'm sure producing too much heat from the bit is not a good thing, right?

BigAl07 · 09-20-2008, 03:01 PM

I'm only guessing here but I'd use the metal/wood blade but honestly I don't think it's an exact science. I'd cut at a higher speed to reduce the amount of time/stress. It's probably just trial & error.

Take lots of pics... before.... during... after

deaclauderdale · 09-20-2008, 03:07 PM

And after you take the pics send me a frag or two...

Good luck!

goody · 09-20-2008, 03:37 PM

I will definitely take some pics of the process today. Camera battery is charging, but here are some shots about a month after I bought the frag when it had 7 heads (BTW, I only paid $35). Back then, I had it placed in a hole in my LR, but have moved it to the sandbed.

Al- I've also included a pic of it after I target fed it some mysis.

BigAl07 · 09-20-2008, 04:45 PM

Great pics. Can't wait to see more of the "Fragging"

goody · 09-23-2008, 11:44 PM

Here is a pic of the Duncan before fragging. It's grown 15 heads since March.

The heads were really close together, so kind of hard to find good places to cut.
Green line was first cut, yellow line was second cut, and purple line was third cut.

goody · 09-23-2008, 11:50 PM

Here is the first frag-11 heads.

Picture of all 4 frags.

All are back in the sandbed (see pic) After about 1 hour the heads are beginning to open up.

BigAl07 · 09-23-2008, 11:56 PM

Great work and pics

I'm impressed and THANKS for sharing

seafansar · 09-24-2008, 12:03 AM

Very nice. Thanks again for sharing! How hard were they to cut? Looks like it went pretty easily.

goody · 09-24-2008, 02:14 AM

It was very easy. I ended up using a dremel with a reinforced cut-off wheel. No problems, no heat, not even messy. I hope future attempts at fragging any of my coral will be this easy. I'll post a pic of the frags tomorrow. They are all completely open. Hopefully I'll see the same growth from these.

slysock · 09-24-2008, 03:56 AM

you made it look easy... did any of the duncans "ooze" anything out when you cut through them?

goody · 09-24-2008, 07:45 PM

They are pretty slimy, but nothing "oozed" from them when I cut through. I did have the dremel on high speed and used a little bit of pressure.

lcstorc · 09-24-2008, 08:03 PM

Wonderful.
If they are all opened already you have done a great job.

slysock · 09-24-2008, 08:24 PM

any pic of tem todayy?

goody · 10-02-2008, 12:09 AM

Sorry I haven't posted any updated pics of the frags all opened up. I've been really busy lately, but I'll try to get some up in the next couple of days.

09-20-2008, 02:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
goody Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 177 View Gallery Karma Komment	First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? I'm going to try and frag my duncan that has 22 heads. After some reading it sounds like using a dremel is the best tool. What kind of bit and at what speed do I cut through it? Currently I have some reinforced cut-off wheel bits for plastic, metal, and/or wood. Would these work and if so, do I put the dremel at high or low speed and do I cut through quickly or slowly? I'm sure producing too much heat from the bit is not a good thing, right?

09-20-2008, 03:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? I'm only guessing here but I'd use the metal/wood blade but honestly I don't think it's an exact science. I'd cut at a higher speed to reduce the amount of time/stress. It's probably just trial & error. Take lots of pics... before.... during... after __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

09-20-2008, 03:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
deaclauderdale Reefing for Jesus Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lancaster,California Posts: 2,499 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? And after you take the pics send me a frag or two... Good luck! __________________ 187 Gallon Peninsula Tank (2) 250 Watt HQI That's what I love about saltwater tanks. You get God's best!!

09-20-2008, 03:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
goody Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 177 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? I will definitely take some pics of the process today. Camera battery is charging, but here are some shots about a month after I bought the frag when it had 7 heads (BTW, I only paid $35). Back then, I had it placed in a hole in my LR, but have moved it to the sandbed. Al- I've also included a pic of it after I target fed it some mysis.

09-20-2008, 04:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? Great pics. Can't wait to see more of the "Fragging" __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

09-23-2008, 11:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
goody Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 177 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? Here is a pic of the Duncan before fragging. It's grown 15 heads since March. The heads were really close together, so kind of hard to find good places to cut. Green line was first cut, yellow line was second cut, and purple line was third cut.

09-23-2008, 11:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
goody Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 177 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? Here is the first frag-11 heads. Picture of all 4 frags. All are back in the sandbed (see pic) After about 1 hour the heads are beginning to open up.

09-23-2008, 11:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? Great work and pics I'm impressed and THANKS for sharing __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

09-24-2008, 12:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
seafansar Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 1,191 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? Very nice. Thanks again for sharing! How hard were they to cut? Looks like it went pretty easily. __________________ -Sara SW since Jan. '08 150 gallon SPS reef 20 gallon BTA/clown tank 90 gallon bowfront mixed reef 45 gallon cube 150 tank thread 45 cube thread My Reefnook

09-24-2008, 02:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
goody Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 177 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? It was very easy. I ended up using a dremel with a reinforced cut-off wheel. No problems, no heat, not even messy. I hope future attempts at fragging any of my coral will be this easy. I'll post a pic of the frags tomorrow. They are all completely open. Hopefully I'll see the same growth from these.

09-24-2008, 03:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
slysock Sea Pen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: calistoga Posts: 329 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? you made it look easy... did any of the duncans "ooze" anything out when you cut through them?

09-24-2008, 07:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
goody Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 177 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? They are pretty slimy, but nothing "oozed" from them when I cut through. I did have the dremel on high speed and used a little bit of pressure.

09-24-2008, 08:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? Wonderful. If they are all opened already you have done a great job. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

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10-02-2008, 12:09 AM	#15 (permalink)
goody Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 177 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First fragging attemp, which Dremel bit? Sorry I haven't posted any updated pics of the frags all opened up. I've been really busy lately, but I'll try to get some up in the next couple of days.

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