Fragging Ideas/supplies

BigAl07 · 08-17-2007, 10:27 AM

I read a while back that someone was using pieces of ceramic tile for fragging disks. Not whole tiles but like the small decorative ones that come on a sheet of matting already spaced and ready for grouting. They are of different sizes and stuff and look like that would make awesome frag plugs. Anyone ever use or heard of this? I live WAY up in the mountains of Western North Carolina and fragging supplies are few and far between (as with just about ANYTHING SW related) and every time I order something I always forget about plugs, fragging supplies and hinged legs for My coralife light fixture.

I thought about (read about) Golf Tees as well. Anyone using these? If so wooden, plastic etc? ? ? I don't have any LR Rubble and the LFS is willing to sell me some from his recent rock shipment but it's ALSO $13.99 lb.. don't get me wrong it wouldn't take much but it's PRINCIPLE! I don't want to pay that for RUBBLE!!!

I'm open to ideas and suggestions here gang

Allen

Cassette87 · 08-17-2007, 10:45 AM

Well, I personally just take pieces of old dead rock, and smash it with a hammer

whatever pieces look nice i rub the edges together in water to smooth them out, and viola, free frag pieces. I have heard of the golf tee idea, though I would avoid the wood, as it's going to rot over time, and you certainly want whatever coral your fragging to have a solid base. I would say go with the plastic if anything! Just remember the rubble doesn't have to be live to glue frags to it... ceramic and golf tees sure as heck aren't live

BigAl07 · 08-17-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassette87

Well, I personally just take pieces of old dead rock, and smash it with a hammer

whatever pieces look nice i rub the edges together in water to smooth them out, and viola, free frag pieces. I have heard of the golf tee idea, though I would avoid the wood, as it's going to rot over time, and you certainly want whatever coral your fragging to have a solid base. I would say go with the plastic if anything! Just remember the rubble doesn't have to be live to glue frags to it... ceramic and golf tees sure as heck aren't live

I would too but I don't have any old dead rock. I can't even start to imagine taking rock from my display tank and doing this with it. Maybe I'll go to the LFS and see if I can explain what I'm doing and see if he'll cut me a deal on some rubble. He doesn't sell "Base/Dead" rock at all.

If not I'll go to the local big blue (Lowes) and pick up some ceramic tile sheets and see how that works. That's unless we can come up with a reason to NOT use those (chemicals etc etc). In that case it's black plastic golf tees.

Allen

Cassette87 · 08-17-2007, 11:14 AM

I would ask at the LFS to see if he can get some baserock for you. I know that you can purchase it at certian hardware stores (it's intended for other purposes, but its essentially the same thing, and way cheaper) so you may want to look around there too. the reason you mentioned would be the only reason that i'd worry about the ceramic. worst case scenario i'll go pick up some base rock and mail it to ya

BigAl07 · 08-17-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassette87

....the reason you mentioned would be the only reason that i'd worry about the ceramic...

I'll do some snooping around and see if I can find anything about this before "diving" into it. whatever I find I'll post back here.

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Originally Posted by Cassette87

...worst case scenario i'll go pick up some base rock and mail it to ya

Thanks buddy! That's awesome. But if I get into a bind I can always take a road trip into Tennessee to get some or down to the flatlands of NC. Maybe even make a weekend of it if need be. But I do appreciate the very generous offer.

RS is so much MORE like a family than words can even describe.

Allen

forestal · 09-09-2007, 11:10 AM

Al, here's a thread i did on fragexchange and on another board expanded version for the beginner to go over supplies and such: (if not ok to post another board, let me know,can try to save to my website and repost
Coral Fragging 101 - AquariumBoard Forums
u can get cheap at florist shop the plastic guys to put rose stems in, they work fantastic, just stick the frag in, and stick into sand or hole in rock

johnbljr · 02-27-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by forestal

Al, here's a thread i did on fragexchange and on another board expanded version for the beginner to go over supplies and such: (if not ok to post another board, let me know,can try to save to my website and repost
Coral Fragging 101 - AquariumBoard Forums
u can get cheap at florist shop the plastic guys to put rose stems in, they work fantastic, just stick the frag in, and stick into sand or hole in rock

I was thinking about fragging some of my zoas and this has great information.

Tru2nr · 02-27-2008, 04:13 PM

a LFS uses those green plugs that they put flowers in i don't have a pic cuz i always scrap off the frag heh which im sure u can get at big blue or orange another idea is getting like a big chunk of "lava rock" from the LFS most major names sell it itsa the brick colored stuff and smash that up just my 2cents

FragFarmer · 09-27-2008, 03:22 PM

I buy rock rubble from the LFS for $2/LB. I smash it up into smaller pieces the size of golf balls.

puddlekeeper · 10-09-2008, 06:14 PM

I got 3 heads of Candy Cane (and a couple other coral) on those and hate it ...

it doesn't sit well on L.R. and doesn't look natural at all

lcstorc · 10-09-2008, 06:17 PM

New trick my LFS showed me last week. Take the nipple of a baby bottle and fill it with cement. Let harden. Walla Frag plug that sits perfectly in eggcrate.

BigJay · 10-09-2008, 06:51 PM

Al I know this is an old thread but I am going to start making some glass ones for myself. If you need some let me know. Some people may not like them as they can't be cropped. Again the upside is that thick they should never degrade or break. Let me know.

lcstorc · 10-09-2008, 09:40 PM

LOL
I didn't even look at the dates.

BigAl07 · 10-09-2008, 11:25 PM

Jay I'd love to see some of your ideas for "Frag Plugs". I LOVE fragging around

BigJay · 10-09-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl07

Jay I'd love to see some of your ideas for "Frag Plugs". I LOVE fragging around

Tried to get some done tonight, but my daughter brought me home a cold this week from her school, so I just couldn't get anything done. Making some half marble shaped ones for zoo frags. I just think they look better when they come in on something ball shaped. I'll let you know when I got some made up.

08-17-2007, 10:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Fragging Ideas/supplies I read a while back that someone was using pieces of ceramic tile for fragging disks. Not whole tiles but like the small decorative ones that come on a sheet of matting already spaced and ready for grouting. They are of different sizes and stuff and look like that would make awesome frag plugs. Anyone ever use or heard of this? I live WAY up in the mountains of Western North Carolina and fragging supplies are few and far between (as with just about ANYTHING SW related) and every time I order something I always forget about plugs, fragging supplies and hinged legs for My coralife light fixture. I thought about (read about) Golf Tees as well. Anyone using these? If so wooden, plastic etc? ? ? I don't have any LR Rubble and the LFS is willing to sell me some from his recent rock shipment but it's ALSO $13.99 lb.. don't get me wrong it wouldn't take much but it's PRINCIPLE! I don't want to pay that for RUBBLE!!! I'm open to ideas and suggestions here gang Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

08-17-2007, 10:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cassette87 Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Palos Park, IL Posts: 1,474 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies Well, I personally just take pieces of old dead rock, and smash it with a hammer whatever pieces look nice i rub the edges together in water to smooth them out, and viola, free frag pieces. I have heard of the golf tee idea, though I would avoid the wood, as it's going to rot over time, and you certainly want whatever coral your fragging to have a solid base. I would say go with the plastic if anything! Just remember the rubble doesn't have to be live to glue frags to it... ceramic and golf tees sure as heck aren't live __________________ Andy My 29 Gallon Reef

08-17-2007, 11:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cassette87 Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Palos Park, IL Posts: 1,474 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies I would ask at the LFS to see if he can get some baserock for you. I know that you can purchase it at certian hardware stores (it's intended for other purposes, but its essentially the same thing, and way cheaper) so you may want to look around there too. the reason you mentioned would be the only reason that i'd worry about the ceramic. worst case scenario i'll go pick up some base rock and mail it to ya __________________ Andy My 29 Gallon Reef

09-09-2007, 11:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
forestal Torch coral Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vernon, CT Posts: 582 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies Al, here's a thread i did on fragexchange and on another board expanded version for the beginner to go over supplies and such: (if not ok to post another board, let me know,can try to save to my website and repost Coral Fragging 101 - AquariumBoard Forums u can get cheap at florist shop the plastic guys to put rose stems in, they work fantastic, just stick the frag in, and stick into sand or hole in rock __________________ Peace, Dan

02-27-2008, 04:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tru2nr Reef Lobster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,299 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies a LFS uses those green plugs that they put flowers in i don't have a pic cuz i always scrap off the frag heh which im sure u can get at big blue or orange another idea is getting like a big chunk of "lava rock" from the LFS most major names sell it itsa the brick colored stuff and smash that up just my 2cents __________________ My 55g Chronical of addiction... Mistakes Have been made in the past.....still trying to clean up from them in the present....mistakes will be made in the future.....so what do we do?...... we party until we make another mistake!!!! WARNING: Corals in Tank, Add Crabs at own risk

09-27-2008, 03:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
FragFarmer Serpent Star Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Westminster, CO. Posts: 220 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies I buy rock rubble from the LFS for $2/LB. I smash it up into smaller pieces the size of golf balls.

10-09-2008, 06:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
puddlekeeper Tunicate Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies I got 3 heads of Candy Cane (and a couple other coral) on those and hate it ... it doesn't sit well on L.R. and doesn't look natural at all __________________ Visit My ReefSpace Page

10-09-2008, 06:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies New trick my LFS showed me last week. Take the nipple of a baby bottle and fill it with cement. Let harden. Walla Frag plug that sits perfectly in eggcrate. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

10-09-2008, 06:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
BigJay Golden Moray Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,548 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies Al I know this is an old thread but I am going to start making some glass ones for myself. If you need some let me know. Some people may not like them as they can't be cropped. Again the upside is that thick they should never degrade or break. Let me know. __________________ Reefing off and on since '92 BigJay's Oceanic 90g bowfront chronicle See my pyrex products and target feeders here

10-09-2008, 09:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies LOL I didn't even look at the dates. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

10-09-2008, 11:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fragging Ideas/supplies Jay I'd love to see some of your ideas for "Frag Plugs". I LOVE fragging around __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

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