How do you tell if an Acro is dead?

blue_eyes53813 · 12-03-2006, 09:40 AM

I went and visited some petstores yesterday and I was looking in a tank and i noticed a bright green acro shoved behind the rock work... I mean it was bright green... I asked the worker if it was for sale thinking it fell behind the rocks by accident... He said ohhh no its dead,, I said really!!!!! I have never seen such a bright color of a dead acro,,, Dont they usually go all White and eventually brown? Ok so I walked through the store and I kept thinking about that supposed dead coral... Like a dumby I asked if it was dead I would like to take it home lol... I felt so dumb....he looked at me like ok...

He said it is dead because it doesnt have any tissue??? Well I noticed alot of acros in stress look very much like sticks...

So needless to say I braught this dead coral home... I really dont think it is dead.. If it is Im gonna be soooooo embarrassed... But the coloring is so bright. Well I put it in the tank and it had a dicharge (white) coming out of the tips where I touched it..

So back to the regular question... How do you know an acro is dead..

Pro_builder · 12-03-2006, 09:58 AM

Do you have a pic of the Acro?
Does it feel like it has tissue on the skeleton or does it feel like a piece of live rock?
Usually when a SPS is dead it is white, or over gown with Algea and then has a brown color. Unless it is overgrown with Coraline algae that is green, but that usually isn't a bright green color.
Can you see small polyps on it? It may take some time for them to come back out after acclimation to your tank and lights.

blue_eyes53813 · 12-03-2006, 10:07 AM

I will get a picture of it when all lights come on. It was late last night and I did putty it to a rock up close to the lights... If its dead im gonna have a dead acro puttyed to the top of my rock work, lol It doesnt have much tissue on it but it is so bright.. and it did give off a little white gunk when touched.... lol I hope its not dead...

blue_eyes53813 · 12-03-2006, 06:13 PM

Well here is a picture.. I dont know.. I cant believe the color but it may be dead???? i had to try to save it.

blue_eyes53813 · 12-03-2006, 06:17 PM

Oh that doesnt even show the color.. It is brighter than that...Lime green

cheeks69 · 12-03-2006, 06:46 PM

No I don't believe it's dead especially if there's a dicharge (white) but usually it's slime and not of any particular color. What may have happened is it became very light in color because it was exposed to very intense light but it's salvageable in my experience. I would place it on the substrate and see how it reacts.

blue_eyes53813 · 12-03-2006, 07:29 PM

Thanks Cheeks, Im gonna give it a try... I hope it comes back

Pro_builder · 12-04-2006, 08:40 AM

It looks ok to me.

blue_eyes53813 · 12-04-2006, 09:01 AM

I just hope it holds the color and can make a come back.. On the right base it is pretty white.. It is prob 6 - 8 inches wide.. prob a 150.00 coral

Warnberg · 12-04-2006, 10:41 AM

Send me a piece of it I'll check it to see if it's dead or not...

Actually the best way to tell if an acro is dead or not it to just observe it and see if you can see any polyps extending from it. It may take some time to tell as several acro's have very very short polyps.

cheeks69 · 12-04-2006, 11:22 AM

When a coral is in that condition usually doesn't extend the polyps at least during the day but the fact that it still has color is a clear indication that it's still alive albeit stressed.

I went thru a similar situation with most of my SPS and even those that lost most of their tissue survived and recovered:

Corals losing color ???

blue_eyes53813 · 12-04-2006, 12:20 PM

Good reading ,, Thanks... I think I mounted it to close to the lights... All my other acros are doing great under my lighting.... I should beable to move it up after it recovers right?

cheeks69 · 12-04-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blue_eyes53813

Good reading ,, Thanks... I think I mounted it to close to the lights... All my other acros are doing great under my lighting.... I should beable to move it up after it recovers right?

Yes !

ReefGuy69 · 12-05-2006, 12:04 AM

Hopefully you are able to save it. And then you will have a freebie from the LFS. If it works out for ya i would tell them you want to see all their dead corals before they get rid of them. Ya might be able to score some more.

blue_eyes53813 · 12-05-2006, 08:44 AM

I thought that too reefguy.. I hope it survives

12-03-2006, 09:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 fully trained mod,,,its my fault~ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 5,852 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	How do you tell if an Acro is dead? I went and visited some petstores yesterday and I was looking in a tank and i noticed a bright green acro shoved behind the rock work... I mean it was bright green... I asked the worker if it was for sale thinking it fell behind the rocks by accident... He said ohhh no its dead,, I said really!!!!! I have never seen such a bright color of a dead acro,,, Dont they usually go all White and eventually brown? Ok so I walked through the store and I kept thinking about that supposed dead coral... Like a dumby I asked if it was dead I would like to take it home lol... I felt so dumb....he looked at me like ok... He said it is dead because it doesnt have any tissue??? Well I noticed alot of acros in stress look very much like sticks... So needless to say I braught this dead coral home... I really dont think it is dead.. If it is Im gonna be soooooo embarrassed... But the coloring is so bright. Well I put it in the tank and it had a dicharge (white) coming out of the tips where I touched it.. So back to the regular question... How do you know an acro is dead.. __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

12-03-2006, 09:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? Do you have a pic of the Acro? Does it feel like it has tissue on the skeleton or does it feel like a piece of live rock? Usually when a SPS is dead it is white, or over gown with Algea and then has a brown color. Unless it is overgrown with Coraline algae that is green, but that usually isn't a bright green color. Can you see small polyps on it? It may take some time for them to come back out after acclimation to your tank and lights. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

12-03-2006, 10:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 fully trained mod,,,its my fault~ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 5,852 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? I will get a picture of it when all lights come on. It was late last night and I did putty it to a rock up close to the lights... If its dead im gonna have a dead acro puttyed to the top of my rock work, lol It doesnt have much tissue on it but it is so bright.. and it did give off a little white gunk when touched.... lol I hope its not dead... __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

12-03-2006, 06:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 fully trained mod,,,its my fault~ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 5,852 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? Oh that doesnt even show the color.. It is brighter than that...Lime green __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

12-03-2006, 06:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,533 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? No I don't believe it's dead especially if there's a dicharge (white) but usually it's slime and not of any particular color. What may have happened is it became very light in color because it was exposed to very intense light but it's salvageable in my experience. I would place it on the substrate and see how it reacts. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

12-03-2006, 07:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 fully trained mod,,,its my fault~ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 5,852 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? Thanks Cheeks, Im gonna give it a try... I hope it comes back __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

12-04-2006, 08:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? It looks ok to me. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

12-04-2006, 09:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 fully trained mod,,,its my fault~ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 5,852 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? I just hope it holds the color and can make a come back.. On the right base it is pretty white.. It is prob 6 - 8 inches wide.. prob a 150.00 coral __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

12-04-2006, 10:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,908 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? Send me a piece of it I'll check it to see if it's dead or not... Actually the best way to tell if an acro is dead or not it to just observe it and see if you can see any polyps extending from it. It may take some time to tell as several acro's have very very short polyps. __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

12-04-2006, 11:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,533 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? When a coral is in that condition usually doesn't extend the polyps at least during the day but the fact that it still has color is a clear indication that it's still alive albeit stressed. I went thru a similar situation with most of my SPS and even those that lost most of their tissue survived and recovered: Corals losing color ??? __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

12-04-2006, 12:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 fully trained mod,,,its my fault~ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 5,852 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? Good reading ,, Thanks... I think I mounted it to close to the lights... All my other acros are doing great under my lighting.... I should beable to move it up after it recovers right? __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

12-05-2006, 12:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
ReefGuy69 Plate Coral Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 746 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? Hopefully you are able to save it. And then you will have a freebie from the LFS. If it works out for ya i would tell them you want to see all their dead corals before they get rid of them. Ya might be able to score some more.

12-05-2006, 08:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 fully trained mod,,,its my fault~ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 5,852 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: How do you tell if an Acro is dead? I thought that too reefguy.. I hope it survives __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

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