Cannon D-Rebel!!! What do you think?

Michael_Lambert · 03-14-2005, 05:23 PM

Alright guys..

Once again im looking to upgrade my camera.. I have allways really really liked the Digital Rebel. And have never used SLR camera before allways just a good old Point and Shoot.. Currently using the Dimage Z1.. has had the most features i have had so far in a camera..

So im looking for a good entry level Digital SLR camera.. and what to know what you all think about this...

I can get this package for $899 Canadian..

CANON D-REBEL SILVER W/18-55 EF-S

Its about the going price for them.. Just wondering how that lens is.. Or am i going to need to buy another lens for shooting the aquarium?

I was concidering the Nikon D70.. But its $250Can.. More.. and does not come with lens.. and really cant afford to spend another grand on a decent lens for it.. So im really thinking the D-Rebel is the one i should go with?

What do you all think..

Thanks
Michael

jcoopergd · 03-14-2005, 06:16 PM

This is coming from my own personal feelings - but i have not used or reda up on the nikons-

IMO - Canon has some of the best optics (lenses) out there. The digital Rebel SLR though is the bottom line digital SLR camera - Although its not the best Canon, its definately not the worst camera you could get.

One thing you may look at - the included lens is almost always crap. You ought to see if you can get it without the lens, and try looking in camera stores for used canon lenses. I use a Canon 55mm/1.2f lens - very nice and if you use the money you saved by buying without the lens, you may be able to get a good lens that way.

but do check to make sure the lens will work - I've heard conflicting stories about what canon lenses will work with the DigRebel...

my two cents - you can PM me with more specific questions -

also, if you've never shot SLR before, you may want to take a class - learn what f-stops, shutter speeds etc. are, and what they will do to your picture....If there's one thing i hate, its someone getting a good SLR camera, and using it like a point and shoot camera....LAME! find out what you camera can do, and you will then have two hobbies to sink money into..

j

reefrunner · 03-14-2005, 06:19 PM

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Or am i going to need to buy another lens for shooting the aquarium?

You'll probably want one, I've not tried to use the 18-55mm lens for any close up work, I really only use it for the wide end on landscapes, but it takes a bad rap on the photography forums, IMO. It's slower than some other lenses, but it get's the job done and has produced some nice images for me. Shooting an aquarium you'll probably want a dedicated macro lens.

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I was concidering the Nikon D70.. But its $250Can.. More.. and does not come with lens..

Honestly you can't go wrong with either camera, the d70 is not better, but has more features and, price wise is in the same range a the d rebel, it is not in terms of features. Making the decision on which camera to buy should be made knowing which one will offer the lens system you want to invest in and then which one has the features your interested in. IMO, the d70 is worth the extra money, but may be more camera than you need.

To answer your real question...it's a great camera, you've already seen some awesome photos that come from that camera posted here as there are a couple or more members here that use/used them, I see stunning photos all over the net from the d rebel, but a dslr is not just an investment in a camera, it's an investment in all the other stuff that goes into it, depending on your needs, often the camera body is one of the cheaper components of your system.

Michael_Lambert · 03-14-2005, 06:21 PM

Learned all that

Thats why i bought the Dimage Z1.. The only Point and shoot camera that acts like a SLR.. Meaning i can adjust the F-stop and shutter speeds..

Im more than capible of using the SLR.. And i do have a couple of friends who are big in the Photo Hobby.. not to mention if i buy at Henrys like i plan on they give free classes on how to use the camera.

reefrunner · 03-14-2005, 06:22 PM

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I've heard conflicting stories about what canon lenses will work with the DigRebel...

Just like the 20d and the 350d the 300d will accept any Canon mount EF or EF-S lenses.

Michael_Lambert · 03-14-2005, 08:23 PM

Well, I was soo fixated on the D-rebel.. I now see that they came out with the D-Rebel XT..

Humm... 8 Mega Pixel !

sanblas · 03-14-2005, 10:49 PM

I bought a used 300d a few weeks ago and like it very much, I couldnt have afforded the d70, d20, or the new 350xt, so Im happy with my choice. If I had more money I would have gone with the d70 for a nikon based system or the d20 for canon...I held the rebel xt over the weekend and its too small for me, but thats a personal thing.

the kit lens for the rebel is not a bad lens at all and is ok for close up work but by no means great and will be a let down from your z1...I have a nikon 4500(fantastic macro) and was very disappointed with the kit lens for macro...so based on some recs from this board I bought the phoenix/vivtar 100mm macro for about $150 at a local store, much cheaper than the canon 100mm macro. Ive been pleased with it so far and have been getting good pics but have to use a tripod. One huge plus is being able to shoot in RAW which makes white balance a breeze in post production.

let me know if you have any questions, happy to help...if you want to see some pics with the phoenix macro, look in this link
anyone using 50mm canon macro?

Barnacle Dave · 03-15-2005, 06:51 AM

If you are not going to buy extra lenes then the SLR cameras are not for you.
If wanting to choose between the rebel D and the XT The price difference on the kits are about 200 bucks difference.
The new XT is lighter and faster and smaller the the rebel D.

Michael_Lambert · 03-15-2005, 07:12 AM

Oh i will be buying lens for it, Just don't have the cash to buy it all at once

So im looking to see if the lens it comes with is okay, I mean i would hate to go out and buy a SLR body.. and have it sitting around my house for months while i save up to buy a lens for it.. That would just drive me totally Crazy!

Lens i want to get over time are

Good Macro
Good Telephoto lense ( Shooting Wildlife)
Good Wide Angle
Good lens for shooting Sporting events ( Families Soccer games and stuff ) not sure what lens i would need for that.

drdrew · 03-16-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Toooloud

Lens i want to get over time are

Good Macro
Good Telephoto lense ( Shooting Wildlife)
Good Wide Angle
Good lens for shooting Sporting events ( Families Soccer games and stuff ) not sure what lens i would need for that.

...see you in about 3500 USdollars...

Michael_Lambert · 03-16-2005, 07:33 PM

oh of course.. But that would be 5 grand Canadian Over 5 years

the lens that comes with it would be find for my uses right now.. as its still much better than the 3.2 meg Point and shoot camera i have now..

In a couple of months get a good macro lens.. and then work my way from there

Travis · 03-16-2005, 08:09 PM

Sounds like you've already gotten very good advice. Only thing I would add, is maybe look into a used 10D for about the same amount. The features are worth it.

T

Michael_Lambert · 03-25-2005, 12:11 PM

Yea i was playing with the 10d in the store, as well as the rebel XT.. and just cant get over the feel of them.... Really don't like the weight on the 10D..

i really really love the feel the the rebel..

Travis · 03-25-2005, 06:15 PM

When you stick a good lens like the 100mm macro on the 10D or rebel the weight of the body itself won't make much difference IMO.

03-14-2005, 05:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Michael_Lambert Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 586 View Gallery Karma Komment	Cannon D-Rebel!!! What do you think? Alright guys.. Once again im looking to upgrade my camera.. I have allways really really liked the Digital Rebel. And have never used SLR camera before allways just a good old Point and Shoot.. Currently using the Dimage Z1.. has had the most features i have had so far in a camera.. So im looking for a good entry level Digital SLR camera.. and what to know what you all think about this... I can get this package for $899 Canadian.. CANON D-REBEL SILVER W/18-55 EF-S Its about the going price for them.. Just wondering how that lens is.. Or am i going to need to buy another lens for shooting the aquarium? I was concidering the Nikon D70.. But its $250Can.. More.. and does not come with lens.. and really cant afford to spend another grand on a decent lens for it.. So im really thinking the D-Rebel is the one i should go with? What do you all think.. Thanks Michael

03-15-2005, 06:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
Barnacle Dave Serpent Star Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arlington Texas Posts: 211 View Gallery Karma Komment	If you are not going to buy extra lenes then the SLR cameras are not for you. If wanting to choose between the rebel D and the XT The price difference on the kits are about 200 bucks difference. The new XT is lighter and faster and smaller the the rebel D. __________________ aka: Nautilus Come Join Us http://www.reeffrontiers.com/images/...7_sig_logo.jpg Last edited by Barnacle Dave : 03-15-2005 at 06:17 PM.

03-25-2005, 06:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,697 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	When you stick a good lens like the 100mm macro on the 10D or rebel the weight of the body itself won't make much difference IMO. __________________ Help build the Encyclopedia of ReefKeeping Find over 1400 Reef Aquarium Articles at The Reef Aquarium Index

03-14-2005, 06:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
jcoopergd Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 250 View Gallery Karma Komment	This is coming from my own personal feelings - but i have not used or reda up on the nikons- IMO - Canon has some of the best optics (lenses) out there. The digital Rebel SLR though is the bottom line digital SLR camera - Although its not the best Canon, its definately not the worst camera you could get. One thing you may look at - the included lens is almost always crap. You ought to see if you can get it without the lens, and try looking in camera stores for used canon lenses. I use a Canon 55mm/1.2f lens - very nice and if you use the money you saved by buying without the lens, you may be able to get a good lens that way. but do check to make sure the lens will work - I've heard conflicting stories about what canon lenses will work with the DigRebel... my two cents - you can PM me with more specific questions - also, if you've never shot SLR before, you may want to take a class - learn what f-stops, shutter speeds etc. are, and what they will do to your picture....If there's one thing i hate, its someone getting a good SLR camera, and using it like a point and shoot camera....LAME! find out what you camera can do, and you will then have two hobbies to sink money into.. j

03-14-2005, 06:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Michael_Lambert Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 586 View Gallery Karma Komment	Learned all that Thats why i bought the Dimage Z1.. The only Point and shoot camera that acts like a SLR.. Meaning i can adjust the F-stop and shutter speeds.. Im more than capible of using the SLR.. And i do have a couple of friends who are big in the Photo Hobby.. not to mention if i buy at Henrys like i plan on they give free classes on how to use the camera.

03-14-2005, 08:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Michael_Lambert Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 586 View Gallery Karma Komment	Well, I was soo fixated on the D-rebel.. I now see that they came out with the D-Rebel XT.. Humm... 8 Mega Pixel !

03-14-2005, 10:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
sanblas Tunicate Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 15 View Gallery Karma Komment	I bought a used 300d a few weeks ago and like it very much, I couldnt have afforded the d70, d20, or the new 350xt, so Im happy with my choice. If I had more money I would have gone with the d70 for a nikon based system or the d20 for canon...I held the rebel xt over the weekend and its too small for me, but thats a personal thing. the kit lens for the rebel is not a bad lens at all and is ok for close up work but by no means great and will be a let down from your z1...I have a nikon 4500(fantastic macro) and was very disappointed with the kit lens for macro...so based on some recs from this board I bought the phoenix/vivtar 100mm macro for about $150 at a local store, much cheaper than the canon 100mm macro. Ive been pleased with it so far and have been getting good pics but have to use a tripod. One huge plus is being able to shoot in RAW which makes white balance a breeze in post production. let me know if you have any questions, happy to help...if you want to see some pics with the phoenix macro, look in this link anyone using 50mm canon macro?

03-15-2005, 07:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
Michael_Lambert Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 586 View Gallery Karma Komment	Oh i will be buying lens for it, Just don't have the cash to buy it all at once So im looking to see if the lens it comes with is okay, I mean i would hate to go out and buy a SLR body.. and have it sitting around my house for months while i save up to buy a lens for it.. That would just drive me totally Crazy! Lens i want to get over time are Good Macro Good Telephoto lense ( Shooting Wildlife) Good Wide Angle Good lens for shooting Sporting events ( Families Soccer games and stuff ) not sure what lens i would need for that.

03-16-2005, 07:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
Michael_Lambert Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 586 View Gallery Karma Komment	oh of course.. But that would be 5 grand Canadian Over 5 years the lens that comes with it would be find for my uses right now.. as its still much better than the 3.2 meg Point and shoot camera i have now.. In a couple of months get a good macro lens.. and then work my way from there

03-16-2005, 08:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,697 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Sounds like you've already gotten very good advice. Only thing I would add, is maybe look into a used 10D for about the same amount. The features are worth it. T

03-25-2005, 12:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Michael_Lambert Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 586 View Gallery Karma Komment	Yea i was playing with the 10d in the store, as well as the rebel XT.. and just cant get over the feel of them.... Really don't like the weight on the 10D.. i really really love the feel the the rebel..

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