The moon at dawn

reefrunner · 06-06-2004, 10:58 PM

Well, I was getting ready to leave this morning (right around dawn) and I noticed that the moon was still up in the sky and the sun was just beginning to break the horizon. The moon was just past being full and I thought it looked pretty cool and I thought, well hell you were gonna be a few minutes early anyway, so I dashed inside and got the cam and the tripod but there was no way I could shoot the pic and have someone see what I saw. I tried to take several exposures exposing for both highlights and shadows, but the moon moves pretty fast and none of them matched up. Luckily I was shooting in RAW and what I ended up doing was taking the one that was closest to the middle and changing the exposure and shadows for highlights and converting it, then doing the same thing exposing it for shadows. I then used the instructions on this page http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tu...blending.shtml and combining the two exposures. I thought it came out decent for the first time I had ever done this. I think this is most useful if you shoot in RAW or recognize the probability of a shot beyond the dynamic range of the cam and remember to bracket. I found even shooting from a tripod and using a cable release, the act of changing the dial for exposure moved the camera very slightly, but slight changes are magnified over distance. There is also the issue of wind through the tree branches. It is much simpler to use the same image, simply exposed differently.

Anyway, here is my first attempt at a digital blending.

Image exposed for shadows

Image exposed for highlights

Image that has been digitally blended

Maxx · 06-07-2004, 01:35 AM

Very Cool Kevin! I need to learn how to do all of this w/ a digital. All of my experiance is film based. I could spend a couple of hours in the darkroom and get similar results, but I bet it didnt even take you that long. And all my efforts would be for a single print, each successive print would be different from the original.
Man I need a Canon 10d!
Nick

wooddood · 06-07-2004, 08:06 AM

very very nice kevin great job.

dave.

reefrunner · 06-07-2004, 09:47 AM

Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool. It was pretty simple following the directions on the page linked above, I used the second method, although if it is something I end up doing regularly, I'll probably spend the money on the Fred Miranda Action and see what kind of results it gives.

drdrew · 06-07-2004, 10:15 AM

great job...funny, i was out at 3:00 a.m. the other night trying to do the same thing...my results sucked. i do need to learn that trick though. thanks for the link. i didn't know FM had an action for it?

reefrunner · 06-07-2004, 10:23 AM

Yeah, there is a link to the Fred Miranda Action on the luminous-landscape page linked above.

reefrunner · 06-07-2004, 01:39 PM

Here is another I did using the same source files and used a different action developed by a guy called herper (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=8698417) on the dpreview forum, the action is free and I think it did a fine job, let me know which blend is better, I think it brought out ALOT more shadow detail and didn't over expose the highlights.

So which one is better?

drdrew · 06-07-2004, 02:03 PM

i think the last one definitely has more detail in the shadow,

but overall, i like the deeper saturations and more "moodiness"
of your first blend better.

sarah · 06-07-2004, 03:21 PM

Great picys, i think the second one is better, more detail in it.

Sarah xxx

dgasmd · 06-07-2004, 03:28 PM

Very nice picture.

06-06-2004, 10:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	The moon at dawn Well, I was getting ready to leave this morning (right around dawn) and I noticed that the moon was still up in the sky and the sun was just beginning to break the horizon. The moon was just past being full and I thought it looked pretty cool and I thought, well hell you were gonna be a few minutes early anyway, so I dashed inside and got the cam and the tripod but there was no way I could shoot the pic and have someone see what I saw. I tried to take several exposures exposing for both highlights and shadows, but the moon moves pretty fast and none of them matched up. Luckily I was shooting in RAW and what I ended up doing was taking the one that was closest to the middle and changing the exposure and shadows for highlights and converting it, then doing the same thing exposing it for shadows. I then used the instructions on this page http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tu...blending.shtml and combining the two exposures. I thought it came out decent for the first time I had ever done this. I think this is most useful if you shoot in RAW or recognize the probability of a shot beyond the dynamic range of the cam and remember to bracket. I found even shooting from a tripod and using a cable release, the act of changing the dial for exposure moved the camera very slightly, but slight changes are magnified over distance. There is also the issue of wind through the tree branches. It is much simpler to use the same image, simply exposed differently. Anyway, here is my first attempt at a digital blending. Image exposed for shadows Image exposed for highlights Image that has been digitally blended __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

06-07-2004, 01:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	Very Cool Kevin! I need to learn how to do all of this w/ a digital. All of my experiance is film based. I could spend a couple of hours in the darkroom and get similar results, but I bet it didnt even take you that long. And all my efforts would be for a single print, each successive print would be different from the original. Man I need a Canon 10d! Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

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wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	very very nice kevin great job. dave. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

06-07-2004, 09:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool. It was pretty simple following the directions on the page linked above, I used the second method, although if it is something I end up doing regularly, I'll probably spend the money on the Fred Miranda Action and see what kind of results it gives. __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

06-07-2004, 10:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
drdrew Scopas Tang Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: central missouri Posts: 457 View Gallery Karma Komment	great job...funny, i was out at 3:00 a.m. the other night trying to do the same thing...my results sucked. i do need to learn that trick though. thanks for the link. i didn't know FM had an action for it? __________________ caja wrote: get the hell out of my thread you pigs.

06-07-2004, 10:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	Yeah, there is a link to the Fred Miranda Action on the luminous-landscape page linked above. __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

06-07-2004, 01:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	Here is another I did using the same source files and used a different action developed by a guy called herper (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=8698417) on the dpreview forum, the action is free and I think it did a fine job, let me know which blend is better, I think it brought out ALOT more shadow detail and didn't over expose the highlights. So which one is better? __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

06-07-2004, 02:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
drdrew Scopas Tang Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: central missouri Posts: 457 View Gallery Karma Komment	i think the last one definitely has more detail in the shadow, but overall, i like the deeper saturations and more "moodiness" of your first blend better. __________________ caja wrote: get the hell out of my thread you pigs.

06-07-2004, 03:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
sarah Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: england, midlands Posts: 486 View Gallery Karma Komment	Great picys, i think the second one is better, more detail in it. Sarah xxx __________________ I am the way i am..so please be nice

06-07-2004, 03:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
dgasmd Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 466 View Gallery Karma Komment	Very nice picture. __________________ Water is what keeps a ship floating, but it is also what sinks it.

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