Image processing in Photoshop (actions included) - Page 2

Dracunculus · 01-03-2004, 06:45 PM

Just to clarify what has been posted, you can resize the image in Photoshop as well. You are much better off taking the picture at maximum resolution..that way you can also crop out the parts you don't want from the image and still end up with a pioture at your target resolution.

traip93 · 01-03-2004, 09:55 PM

So, after all the touch ups are made in photoshop, you than save the file as a .jpg and transfer over to the site......I guess I was a little confussed.

thanks all,

Anyone have anymore info on that unmask sharpen trick? or is it unsharp mask

Craig Manoukian · 01-03-2004, 10:19 PM

Just got my Photoshop Elements 2.0 and can't wait to play around with it and test on some of my photos. Thanks to all contributors for such an awesome resource.

traip93 · 01-03-2004, 10:23 PM

a pic:

reefrunner · 01-03-2004, 10:32 PM

Not being critical....but did you use a tripod?

IMO, that picture will not attain a sharp crisp look...more sharpening will simply make it grainier (I think I just made that word up

) and increase the noise in the pic.

When using the high pass sharpening, it is very rare that I go higher than 30%, but I tend to prefer a slightly softer pic.

Then unshrp mask...I tend to use the default settings in photoshop, with the actions...I use it at whatever settings Travis had it set to when he posted the zip file

traip93 · 01-03-2004, 11:46 PM

no I did not use a tripod....the pic is very unclear, as you stated......I'm glad you are being critical, that's why I posted that very untravis like pic...thanks for the input. I'll be buying a tripod soon.......

Dingo · 02-07-2004, 03:44 PM

Travis, I just wanted to say that the tips and actions in this thread are great. You gave me a real boost.

Travis · 02-07-2004, 04:34 PM

Thanks Dingo!

Traip, that pic looks more like it has resizing/jpeg artifacting ussues. It very well could have some focus/camera shake issues as well, but the digital issues are bad enough I'm not sure what else is wrong, if anything.

One thing you do NOT want to do is keep resaving pics as JPEGS. Every time you do, you lose image quality. By the 4th time or so, it becomes very noticeable even to the untrained eye. Instead, save your working files as a TIFF or PSD. They are "lossless" saving methods, so no image quality is lost when saving. Then, when you're finished with the pic, save it as a JPEG for posting.

T

uclacsnerd · 03-13-2004, 03:33 PM

Travis thanks for the great thread. I couldn't wait to try this stuff out when I read it. Finally got the chance to do it and here are some results:

Before:

After:

Before:

After:

These were taken with my Canon S40 in the maximum resolution using the aperture priority mode (my favorite mode). I found that hardest part was using the healing brush. It didn't always get the results I expected. I also found that selecting "soft light" on the background copy created by the "high pass" option help reduce the noise caused. I lost a little vibrancy from it but the noise was too hard to look at without the change.

Thanks again Travis. Your pics are just amazing by the way.

TDEVIL · 03-13-2004, 03:53 PM

great pics

Travis, thank for taking the time to do this, i guess i will have to go out and get PS so i can play with my pics

TD

Travis · 03-13-2004, 03:59 PM

Thanks UCLASnerd, and looking good!

Check out this PS seminar I did on selective sharpening- it's the most advanced seminar I've done, but the technique works excellent once you get it down... and it's really not that hard.

Photoshop seminar 3- selective sharpening

I wish I could do a seminar on the healing brush, but there's really no way to show people the technique without doing it real-time. A couple hints- definitely use a smaller brush size, whatever size is just large enough to cover the blemish you're healing out. Also, when trying to heal something near an edge- say, the outline of the fish- try actually alt-clicking with part of the brush on the edge of the fish. That will help cut down on the "volcano of color" effect you'll get sometimes when trying to heal near an edge. HTH.

Travis

Curtswearing · 07-02-2004, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Travis One thing you do NOT want to do is keep resaving pics as JPEGS. Every time you do, you lose image quality. By the 4th time or so, it becomes very noticeable even to the untrained eye. Instead, save your working files as a TIFF or PSD. They are "lossless" saving methods, so no image quality is lost when saving. Then, when you're finished with the pic, save it as a JPEG for posting.

I'm finally trying to learn all of this stuff. I'm glad I re-read this thread. This is good info to know because I was continuing to resave changes in the jpg format.

traip93 · 01-21-2005, 07:07 PM

none of the links on the original post seem to work anymore. FYI

Travis · 01-21-2005, 08:16 PM

The pics? They're all showing up for me...

Pro_builder · 02-07-2006, 09:37 AM

Travis,
The link to the 10D Subtle color Action is broken. Do you know of another spot to get it?
Thanks

01-03-2004, 06:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
Dracunculus Midas Blenny Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 95 View Gallery Karma Komment	Just to clarify what has been posted, you can resize the image in Photoshop as well. You are much better off taking the picture at maximum resolution..that way you can also crop out the parts you don't want from the image and still end up with a pioture at your target resolution. __________________ If you are not a part of the solution, then you are a part of the precipitate.

01-03-2004, 09:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
traip93 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: auburn, ga Posts: 67 View Gallery Karma Komment	So, after all the touch ups are made in photoshop, you than save the file as a .jpg and transfer over to the site......I guess I was a little confussed. thanks all, Anyone have anymore info on that unmask sharpen trick? or is it unsharp mask __________________ chad 125 RR, 45g sump, 10g refugium, MRC-1

01-03-2004, 10:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
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01-03-2004, 10:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
traip93 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: auburn, ga Posts: 67 View Gallery Karma Komment	a pic: __________________ chad 125 RR, 45g sump, 10g refugium, MRC-1

01-03-2004, 10:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	Not being critical....but did you use a tripod? IMO, that picture will not attain a sharp crisp look...more sharpening will simply make it grainier (I think I just made that word up ) and increase the noise in the pic. When using the high pass sharpening, it is very rare that I go higher than 30%, but I tend to prefer a slightly softer pic. Then unshrp mask...I tend to use the default settings in photoshop, with the actions...I use it at whatever settings Travis had it set to when he posted the zip file __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

01-03-2004, 11:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
traip93 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: auburn, ga Posts: 67 View Gallery Karma Komment	no I did not use a tripod....the pic is very unclear, as you stated......I'm glad you are being critical, that's why I posted that very untravis like pic...thanks for the input. I'll be buying a tripod soon....... __________________ chad 125 RR, 45g sump, 10g refugium, MRC-1 Last edited by traip93 : 01-03-2004 at 11:51 PM.

02-07-2004, 03:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
Dingo Serpent Star Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 206 View Gallery Karma Komment	Travis, I just wanted to say that the tips and actions in this thread are great. You gave me a real boost. __________________ Snail Whisperer Member RSMC&RP

02-07-2004, 04:34 PM	#23 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,328 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Thanks Dingo! Traip, that pic looks more like it has resizing/jpeg artifacting ussues. It very well could have some focus/camera shake issues as well, but the digital issues are bad enough I'm not sure what else is wrong, if anything. One thing you do NOT want to do is keep resaving pics as JPEGS. Every time you do, you lose image quality. By the 4th time or so, it becomes very noticeable even to the untrained eye. Instead, save your working files as a TIFF or PSD. They are "lossless" saving methods, so no image quality is lost when saving. Then, when you're finished with the pic, save it as a JPEG for posting. T __________________ Help build the Encyclopedia of ReefKeeping Find over 1400 Reef Aquarium Articles at The Reef Aquarium Index

03-13-2004, 03:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
uclacsnerd Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Santa Monica Posts: 61 View Gallery Karma Komment	Travis thanks for the great thread. I couldn't wait to try this stuff out when I read it. Finally got the chance to do it and here are some results: Before: After: Before: After: These were taken with my Canon S40 in the maximum resolution using the aperture priority mode (my favorite mode). I found that hardest part was using the healing brush. It didn't always get the results I expected. I also found that selecting "soft light" on the background copy created by the "high pass" option help reduce the noise caused. I lost a little vibrancy from it but the noise was too hard to look at without the change. Thanks again Travis. Your pics are just amazing by the way. __________________ 60 GAL, 4x55W PC, 50 lbs Marshal Island Live Rock, 30 GALSump with filter sock & carbon, Refugium with 15 lbs LR, Mircale Mud. Blue Damsel, 3 Domino Damsels, Maroon Clown hosting in Green BTA and Rose BTA, 2 BiColor Anthias, Dusky Wrasse, Coris Wrasse, Cleaner Shrimp, Green Brittle Star, various polyps, shrooms, softies, LPS, tube anemone, GIANT green elephant ear.

03-13-2004, 03:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
TDEVIL Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marion, INDIANA Posts: 1,170 View Gallery Karma Komment	great pics Travis, thank for taking the time to do this, i guess i will have to go out and get PS so i can play with my pics TD __________________ my web site <-- needs updated

03-13-2004, 03:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,328 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Thanks UCLASnerd, and looking good! Check out this PS seminar I did on selective sharpening- it's the most advanced seminar I've done, but the technique works excellent once you get it down... and it's really not that hard. Photoshop seminar 3- selective sharpening I wish I could do a seminar on the healing brush, but there's really no way to show people the technique without doing it real-time. A couple hints- definitely use a smaller brush size, whatever size is just large enough to cover the blemish you're healing out. Also, when trying to heal something near an edge- say, the outline of the fish- try actually alt-clicking with part of the brush on the edge of the fish. That will help cut down on the "volcano of color" effect you'll get sometimes when trying to heal near an edge. HTH. Travis

01-21-2005, 07:07 PM	#28 (permalink)
traip93 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: auburn, ga Posts: 67 View Gallery Karma Komment	none of the links on the original post seem to work anymore. FYI __________________ chad 125 RR, 45g sump, 10g refugium, MRC-1

01-21-2005, 08:16 PM	#29 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,328 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	The pics? They're all showing up for me...

02-07-2006, 09:37 AM	#30 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Image processing in Photoshop (actions included) Travis, The link to the 10D Subtle color Action is broken. Do you know of another spot to get it? Thanks __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

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