ricordea exploded? (help)

wav0718 · 05-13-2008, 03:12 AM

I just bought a piece of live rock with three small ricordeas attached to it. I placed it in the lower part of the tank with low flow. I bought the coral 5 days ago. Here is a pic of the coral when I bought it.

Before I went into work today, I noticed a bunch of grey mucous stuff on the right ricordea and here is what I found when I got home. It looks like it disintergrated.

Anyone have any ideas as to what might have caused this. The other two ricordeas don't look very good. I just want to try and save the other two. Should they be in more light/flow? I don't know my water parameters but will test them tomorrow. My other corals are fine, it is just the ricordeas.

JWarren · 05-13-2008, 03:29 AM

Man! It don't look good!

Have your water checked and get that ric back to the Fish store pronto!

Take a sample of your water as well and have it check out. Don't add anything else to that tank until you find out what is going on. A number of things could cause a Ric to shmeg out like that! Improper pH, low or very high salinity, tank not in a good cycle, with the presence of high ammonia.

Get it back into a tank where it may stand a chance at recovering. Save the ric and then come back here with your parameters, then maybe someone will be able to help you get the tank back on track, if thats the problem.

wav0718 · 05-13-2008, 03:46 AM

I'm not sure if it is my water as my other corals are doing real well (hammer head/monti/acro/euplexaura) They are all doing well and show no signs of stress. Do you think it was placement. When I bought the ricordea it was in an sps frag tank under mh lights. I have mh light but i placed the ricordea in a shaded/low part of the tank. I will try a different location with more light and see how it does over the next two days.

lcstorc · 05-13-2008, 07:16 AM

My rics like high light and medium flow. I can't tell if yours are Fl Ricordia or Yumas but the one looks very much like a Yuma I have. Try moving it up in the tank with decent indirect flow. That is where mide do best anyway.

Tru2nr · 05-13-2008, 10:54 AM

i had this happen to me and it freaked me out my ric's however were sitting in the tank already for like a week and they went back to their position i would put them up closer to the light as they seem to look a little bit bleeched my green ricordia's structure was almost white when i got it from the LFS now its real dark and a nice green after sitting up towards the light

JWarren · 05-13-2008, 11:04 AM

I doubt Lighting is the problem, low flow may be an issue but again I doubt it is the cause and would suspect the difference in your water compared to the water in the stores frag tank first.

If you have corals that are doing good, this dose not mean that your parameters are in line, they may have, over time, acclimated to the water column they are in. Have you ever tested the water from the store you buy from? You should know what they are running there levels at compared to where you keep yours at. This would eliminate the unknown about the water differences. Checking the stores water is a real good indicator that lets me know if the people maintaining those tanks know what the are doing.

Then there is disease or parasite that may also be the problem with the ric. I don't know your tank or how you like to run it, only you do. I can only guess as to the cause at this point. But if the ric was doing good in one tank and not the other, then I just makes sense to me to get it back in the tank it was doing good in then worry about what caused it to shmeg out.

But thats just me.

JWarren · 05-13-2008, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru2nr

i had this happen to me and it freaked me out my ric's however were sitting in the tank already for like a week and they went back to their position i would put them up closer to the light as they seem to look a little bit bleeched my green ricordia's structure was almost white when i got it from the LFS now its real dark and a nice green after sitting up towards the light

Did your ric's every show visible signs of gray slime though?

wav0718 · 05-13-2008, 08:43 PM

Well I took JWarrens advice and took my water to the LFS where I bought the ric's.

There water -
Salinity 1.025
Calcium 450
KH 12

My water
Salinity 1.022
Calcium 370
KH 7

The LFS guy said he thinks I shocked them when I placed them in my tank cause of the low cal/kh I have. I didn't aclimate them to my tank. I just threw them in. I dosed with Reef Builder today to raise my alk and I will dose with calcium tomorrow. Hopefully they will recover.

JWarren · 05-13-2008, 08:54 PM

Hum, I would suspect salinity and pH before Ca and KH. Did you happen to get a pH test done? Obviously there would have been a difference, just curious as to what it was. I could see how the difference in parameters could make the ric's ill.

If you are going to be dealing with a shop on a regular basis, try to keep your parameters in line with each other a bit closer. Just bring yours up slow. Your salinity is a bit low IMO. 1.024 – 1.025 is where I like to keep mine.

1 1/2 hours to 2 hours acclimation minimum!

05-13-2008, 03:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
wav0718 Bryozoan Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 59 View Gallery Karma Komment	ricordea exploded? (help) I just bought a piece of live rock with three small ricordeas attached to it. I placed it in the lower part of the tank with low flow. I bought the coral 5 days ago. Here is a pic of the coral when I bought it. Before I went into work today, I noticed a bunch of grey mucous stuff on the right ricordea and here is what I found when I got home. It looks like it disintergrated. Anyone have any ideas as to what might have caused this. The other two ricordeas don't look very good. I just want to try and save the other two. Should they be in more light/flow? I don't know my water parameters but will test them tomorrow. My other corals are fine, it is just the ricordeas. Last edited by wav0718 : 05-13-2008 at 07:41 AM.

05-13-2008, 03:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ricordea exploded? (help) Man! It don't look good! Have your water checked and get that ric back to the Fish store pronto! Take a sample of your water as well and have it check out. Don't add anything else to that tank until you find out what is going on. A number of things could cause a Ric to shmeg out like that! Improper pH, low or very high salinity, tank not in a good cycle, with the presence of high ammonia. Get it back into a tank where it may stand a chance at recovering. Save the ric and then come back here with your parameters, then maybe someone will be able to help you get the tank back on track, if thats the problem. __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

05-13-2008, 03:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
wav0718 Bryozoan Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 59 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ricordea exploded? (help) I'm not sure if it is my water as my other corals are doing real well (hammer head/monti/acro/euplexaura) They are all doing well and show no signs of stress. Do you think it was placement. When I bought the ricordea it was in an sps frag tank under mh lights. I have mh light but i placed the ricordea in a shaded/low part of the tank. I will try a different location with more light and see how it does over the next two days.

05-13-2008, 07:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: ricordea exploded? (help) My rics like high light and medium flow. I can't tell if yours are Fl Ricordia or Yumas but the one looks very much like a Yuma I have. Try moving it up in the tank with decent indirect flow. That is where mide do best anyway. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

05-13-2008, 10:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tru2nr Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,169 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ricordea exploded? (help) i had this happen to me and it freaked me out my ric's however were sitting in the tank already for like a week and they went back to their position i would put them up closer to the light as they seem to look a little bit bleeched my green ricordia's structure was almost white when i got it from the LFS now its real dark and a nice green after sitting up towards the light __________________ My 55g Chronical of addiction... Mistakes Have been made in the past.....still trying to clean up from them in the present....mistakes will be made in the future.....so what do we do?...... we party until we make another mistake!!!! WARNING: Corals in Tank, Add Crabs at own risk

05-13-2008, 11:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ricordea exploded? (help) I doubt Lighting is the problem, low flow may be an issue but again I doubt it is the cause and would suspect the difference in your water compared to the water in the stores frag tank first. If you have corals that are doing good, this dose not mean that your parameters are in line, they may have, over time, acclimated to the water column they are in. Have you ever tested the water from the store you buy from? You should know what they are running there levels at compared to where you keep yours at. This would eliminate the unknown about the water differences. Checking the stores water is a real good indicator that lets me know if the people maintaining those tanks know what the are doing. Then there is disease or parasite that may also be the problem with the ric. I don't know your tank or how you like to run it, only you do. I can only guess as to the cause at this point. But if the ric was doing good in one tank and not the other, then I just makes sense to me to get it back in the tank it was doing good in then worry about what caused it to shmeg out. But thats just me. __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

05-13-2008, 08:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
wav0718 Bryozoan Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 59 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ricordea exploded? (help) Well I took JWarrens advice and took my water to the LFS where I bought the ric's. There water - Salinity 1.025 Calcium 450 KH 12 My water Salinity 1.022 Calcium 370 KH 7 The LFS guy said he thinks I shocked them when I placed them in my tank cause of the low cal/kh I have. I didn't aclimate them to my tank. I just threw them in. I dosed with Reef Builder today to raise my alk and I will dose with calcium tomorrow. Hopefully they will recover.

05-13-2008, 08:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: ricordea exploded? (help) Hum, I would suspect salinity and pH before Ca and KH. Did you happen to get a pH test done? Obviously there would have been a difference, just curious as to what it was. I could see how the difference in parameters could make the ric's ill. If you are going to be dealing with a shop on a regular basis, try to keep your parameters in line with each other a bit closer. Just bring yours up slow. Your salinity is a bit low IMO. 1.024 – 1.025 is where I like to keep mine. 1 1/2 hours to 2 hours acclimation minimum! __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

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