hammer dying

cannon-ian · 04-22-2008, 01:19 PM

hi got home from work today to find my hammer with what looked like a mass of slime on it and all the polops deflated it has been in the tank for about eight mounths all water parameters are fine can any one help

tippMANn98 · 04-22-2008, 01:30 PM

something has to be off....too little or too much of certain dosings? whats "parameters are fine" mean?

djbacon · 04-22-2008, 01:46 PM

Yeah, need to see the whole picture -

Salinity
calcium
temp
magnesium
dkh
phosphates
nitrates
PH

oh, and when is the last time you changed your lights?

tippMANn98 · 04-22-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djbacon

oh, and when is the last time you changed your lights?

good call!!! didnt think about that...its an easily overlooked issue....

djbacon · 04-22-2008, 03:16 PM

A great invention would be an aquarium light that had an indicator to tell you when the usable light was dwindling.

djbacon · 04-22-2008, 03:18 PM

canon, for what it's worth, my hammers have looked lie that and recovered fine. not sure about the white slime - hard to tell from the picture. Some times some brown slime somes out of the middle (think its excrement) and that is usually followed by a general shrivelling like that.

BigAl07 · 04-22-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cannon-ian

all water parameters are fine can any one help

A little more details than that would help a lot.

These corals do "pout" on occasion so that may be the case. Also this coral can do well with medium to lower light so that might not be an issue.

What really worries me is your mention of "slime mass". This specis of coral is very prone to "Brown Jelly Disease". That's a very quick killer of this coral. It can take it from healthy to dissolved in less than 24 hrs. Keep an eye on it and post back with your specific test results. We'll try and help from there.

Allen

cannon-ian · 04-23-2008, 09:30 AM

hi my readingsa are
ammonia 0ppm
nitrite 0ppm
nitrate 0.25ppm
ph 8
calcium 450ppm
salinity 1.025
temp 25degrees c
i took it out the tank as all the heads where disolved and it just looked like a white and red slimey mess when i took it out it smelt slightly rotten if it was slime disease how did this happen i out in a new rock of shrooms in the weekend could this have been carring the diease i change 5% water once fortnightly witch ive been doing for the past year bulbs are mh and where changed 4 mounths ago i also have a devils finger leather witch dose not look to clever but this only started yeasturday

BigAl07 · 04-23-2008, 10:01 AM

Brown Jelly Disease is a bacterial infection and it's no fun at all. Soemtimes it happens with no apparent reason and sometimes it happens after an injury. Either way it's fast and deadly some many soft tissue corals. I lost several different species of "Euphies" in about 3 days due to this.

Good luck and happy reefing.

Oh yeah.. if you google "Brown Jelly Disease" or "Brown Jelly Infection" you can learn a LOT about this and be better prepared for when/if you see it again.

grinch · 04-23-2008, 03:03 PM

could this be the cause of the demise of my bubble, forgspawn and xenia. If so , is it now in the tank?? treatment, my pipe organ is slowly shrinking by the day. Chronic exposure to nitrates???

new 8gal oceanic'
Ph 8.2
Ca 380
nitrates 20ppm
nitirites 0
NH3 0
SG 1024
'

BigAl07 · 04-23-2008, 03:13 PM

I've never seen it attack Xenia and I've never had a Bubble coral. Honestly I can't answer that one.

Treatment starts with DIPS. Google it and you'll see what the dips are.

cannon-ian · 04-23-2008, 04:06 PM

just tested my nitrates and they are up to 30ppm the most ive had for three years i am going to do some big water changes not easy with 700ltrs could the dying hammer polute my water

BigAl07 · 04-23-2008, 04:21 PM

Honestly ANY living organism dieing and being broken down in a tank can contribute to NO3 being elevated.

04-22-2008, 01:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
djbacon Torch coral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 542 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hammer dying Yeah, need to see the whole picture - Salinity calcium temp magnesium dkh phosphates nitrates PH oh, and when is the last time you changed your lights? __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

04-22-2008, 03:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
djbacon Torch coral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 542 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hammer dying A great invention would be an aquarium light that had an indicator to tell you when the usable light was dwindling. __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

04-22-2008, 03:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
djbacon Torch coral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 542 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hammer dying canon, for what it's worth, my hammers have looked lie that and recovered fine. not sure about the white slime - hard to tell from the picture. Some times some brown slime somes out of the middle (think its excrement) and that is usually followed by a general shrivelling like that. __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

04-23-2008, 09:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
cannon-ian Tubeworm Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 36 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: hammer dying hi my readingsa are ammonia 0ppm nitrite 0ppm nitrate 0.25ppm ph 8 calcium 450ppm salinity 1.025 temp 25degrees c i took it out the tank as all the heads where disolved and it just looked like a white and red slimey mess when i took it out it smelt slightly rotten if it was slime disease how did this happen i out in a new rock of shrooms in the weekend could this have been carring the diease i change 5% water once fortnightly witch ive been doing for the past year bulbs are mh and where changed 4 mounths ago i also have a devils finger leather witch dose not look to clever but this only started yeasturday

04-23-2008, 10:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,340 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hammer dying Brown Jelly Disease is a bacterial infection and it's no fun at all. Soemtimes it happens with no apparent reason and sometimes it happens after an injury. Either way it's fast and deadly some many soft tissue corals. I lost several different species of "Euphies" in about 3 days due to this. Good luck and happy reefing. Oh yeah.. if you google "Brown Jelly Disease" or "Brown Jelly Infection" you can learn a LOT about this and be better prepared for when/if you see it again. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

04-23-2008, 03:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
grinch Midas Blenny Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Providence RI Posts: 100 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: hammer dying could this be the cause of the demise of my bubble, forgspawn and xenia. If so , is it now in the tank?? treatment, my pipe organ is slowly shrinking by the day. Chronic exposure to nitrates??? new 8gal oceanic' Ph 8.2 Ca 380 nitrates 20ppm nitirites 0 NH3 0 SG 1024 ' __________________ PAIN IS INEVITABLE, SUFFERING IS OPTIONAL

04-23-2008, 03:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,340 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hammer dying I've never seen it attack Xenia and I've never had a Bubble coral. Honestly I can't answer that one. Treatment starts with DIPS. Google it and you'll see what the dips are. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

04-23-2008, 04:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
cannon-ian Tubeworm Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 36 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: hammer dying just tested my nitrates and they are up to 30ppm the most ive had for three years i am going to do some big water changes not easy with 700ltrs could the dying hammer polute my water

04-23-2008, 04:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,340 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hammer dying Honestly ANY living organism dieing and being broken down in a tank can contribute to NO3 being elevated. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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