Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly)

BigAl07 · 01-08-2008, 12:56 PM

Ok here's the scoop.. I buy a couple of ingredients and mix them to make my own recipe. It's basically Mysis (thawed in RO/DI) and Cyclopeeze. I mix these and pour the mush into small "sauce cups" and freeze. I'm thinking I need to add more to it and found this link...

I would like some more experienced thoughts before I go buying more ingredients and then WASTING them.

Please read and input your thoughts..

Do-it-Yourself Frozen Food by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com

mps9506 · 01-08-2008, 01:15 PM

I think the selcon and nori is very beneficial (no, I have NO scientific data for that). The rest I just would encourage a good mix. I've altered what goes into mine quite a bit, which is easy when you live near the beach and have all kinds of fresh caught seafood coming in every day.
I do not use the gelatin in my mix. When I was doing my internship/volunteer work at the NC aquarium we used gelatin as a binder for the mix for the fish tanks, but that was more to make things easy to feed and keep tanks clean. We weren't trying to feed corals as well.

BigAl07 · 01-08-2008, 01:18 PM

Yeah I agree.. NO gelatin.... couldn't deal with the smell and I don't need it that gooey

mps9506 · 01-08-2008, 01:24 PM

well whats nice with the gelatin is instead of freezing it, you pour it in a tray and put in the fridge. Then you can cut out cubes or crumble it to make different size pieces for all your fish no matter what size. When you are feeding fish that vary in size from top minnows to amberjack this is a nice thing

I've used clams, mussels, squid, crab, and herring in my mixes in the past, not all at the same time obviously.

BigAl07 · 01-08-2008, 02:40 PM

I'm heading to a not so local LFS tomorrow night to get some stuff. I need:

Selcon
Vita-Chem
Nori (is that needed if I don't have any "Herbivores" other than snails?)
what about Garlic? is anyone soaking with Garlic? If so, what kind is it?

I'll be using Egg-Crate for molds so that's about the RIGHT size for what I am trying to do.

panmanmatt · 01-08-2008, 02:57 PM

Use fresh minced garlic from your supermarket and get the nori sheets there also, it'll save you some money.

BigAl07 · 01-08-2008, 03:00 PM

Even BETTER! Nori = Seaweed wrap correct?

panmanmatt · 01-08-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

Even BETTER! Nori = Seaweed wrap correct?

Yup. Same stuff just about 1/3 the price. It's the same exact stuff you wrap sushi in. Well at least it tastes the same to me.

BigAl07 · 01-08-2008, 03:04 PM

I have some Nori here in my office... I was TRYING to feed a Lawn Mower Blenny with it. It was sort of a "Dried" sheet but I think what I've seen at the super market is more of a refidgerated moist sheet.. does that sound right?

panmanmatt · 01-08-2008, 03:08 PM

It's usually refrigerated but not necessarily moist. Although it is fresher and more flexible than the stuff you get at the LFS that has been sitting there for months.

I'm lucky i that my supermarket as a sushi bar so I can get it fresh all the time.

lcstorc · 01-08-2008, 03:22 PM

I've always gotten the dry nori either from the lfs or the grocery. I don't add it to my mix but may start doing so. I just feed it on a clip. Now I am going to have to look for fresh.
My mix is pretty much any saltwater creature that they have at the fish counter of the local store, mysis, cyclopeze, selcon, and garlic. I also use a small ice cube tray but the egg crate sounds like an even better idea.

panmanmatt · 01-08-2008, 03:26 PM

It's not really fresh, but being as my supermarket uses it themselves for making sushi, it's not sitting on a shelf for any length of time.

cracker · 01-08-2008, 03:36 PM

All I can find is the roasted nori. It the roasted just not as nutritional? I didn't mush my fresh frozen this time instead I shave off a little of this one time a little of that the next. But I'm not feeding corals just fish.

AQTCJAK · 01-08-2008, 08:44 PM

Al what Mysis are you usinging & what cyclops the frozen for freeze dried?

Woodstock · 01-08-2008, 08:53 PM

I think the nori at the grocery store is 'baked' or otherwise heated so it has lost some nutritional value. Our market has an oriental section that has it but I choose to purchase nori from the fish store. If you look closely, you can tell the LFS norie is darker green than the other. Is it that big of a difference? I don't know... I just choose the raw nori to be sure. Soak the nori prior to blending... you can soak it in ro/di or in some boiled then cooled tank water.

BigAl, if you want to add thickness to the mush, blend in a few pieces of raw/fresh shrimp. Not only do the fish love the shrimp but it helps to hold the mush together very well.... sort of like gellatin but better

My homemade mush is never the same recipe.... variety

01-08-2008, 12:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) Ok here's the scoop.. I buy a couple of ingredients and mix them to make my own recipe. It's basically Mysis (thawed in RO/DI) and Cyclopeeze. I mix these and pour the mush into small "sauce cups" and freeze. I'm thinking I need to add more to it and found this link... I would like some more experienced thoughts before I go buying more ingredients and then WASTING them. Please read and input your thoughts.. Do-it-Yourself Frozen Food by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-08-2008, 01:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
mps9506 They misunderestimated me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,142 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) I think the selcon and nori is very beneficial (no, I have NO scientific data for that). The rest I just would encourage a good mix. I've altered what goes into mine quite a bit, which is easy when you live near the beach and have all kinds of fresh caught seafood coming in every day. I do not use the gelatin in my mix. When I was doing my internship/volunteer work at the NC aquarium we used gelatin as a binder for the mix for the fish tanks, but that was more to make things easy to feed and keep tanks clean. We weren't trying to feed corals as well. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

01-08-2008, 01:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) Yeah I agree.. NO gelatin.... couldn't deal with the smell and I don't need it that gooey __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-08-2008, 01:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
mps9506 They misunderestimated me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,142 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) well whats nice with the gelatin is instead of freezing it, you pour it in a tray and put in the fridge. Then you can cut out cubes or crumble it to make different size pieces for all your fish no matter what size. When you are feeding fish that vary in size from top minnows to amberjack this is a nice thing I've used clams, mussels, squid, crab, and herring in my mixes in the past, not all at the same time obviously. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

01-08-2008, 02:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) I'm heading to a not so local LFS tomorrow night to get some stuff. I need: Selcon Vita-Chem Nori (is that needed if I don't have any "Herbivores" other than snails?) what about Garlic? is anyone soaking with Garlic? If so, what kind is it? I'll be using Egg-Crate for molds so that's about the RIGHT size for what I am trying to do. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-08-2008, 02:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,895 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) Use fresh minced garlic from your supermarket and get the nori sheets there also, it'll save you some money. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-08-2008, 03:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) Even BETTER! Nori = Seaweed wrap correct? __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-08-2008, 03:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) I have some Nori here in my office... I was TRYING to feed a Lawn Mower Blenny with it. It was sort of a "Dried" sheet but I think what I've seen at the super market is more of a refidgerated moist sheet.. does that sound right? __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-08-2008, 03:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,895 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) It's usually refrigerated but not necessarily moist. Although it is fresher and more flexible than the stuff you get at the LFS that has been sitting there for months. I'm lucky i that my supermarket as a sushi bar so I can get it fresh all the time. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-08-2008, 03:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,412 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) I've always gotten the dry nori either from the lfs or the grocery. I don't add it to my mix but may start doing so. I just feed it on a clip. Now I am going to have to look for fresh. My mix is pretty much any saltwater creature that they have at the fish counter of the local store, mysis, cyclopeze, selcon, and garlic. I also use a small ice cube tray but the egg crate sounds like an even better idea. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

01-08-2008, 03:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,895 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) It's not really fresh, but being as my supermarket uses it themselves for making sushi, it's not sitting on a shelf for any length of time. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-08-2008, 03:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
cracker Acropora Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,717 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) All I can find is the roasted nori. It the roasted just not as nutritional? I didn't mush my fresh frozen this time instead I shave off a little of this one time a little of that the next. But I'm not feeding corals just fish.

01-08-2008, 08:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,930 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) Al what Mysis are you usinging & what cyclops the frozen for freeze dried? __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com Projects & Chronicels http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...car-buffs.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nts-tanks.html

01-08-2008, 08:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,847 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frozen Food (Home made ... mostly) I think the nori at the grocery store is 'baked' or otherwise heated so it has lost some nutritional value. Our market has an oriental section that has it but I choose to purchase nori from the fish store. If you look closely, you can tell the LFS norie is darker green than the other. Is it that big of a difference? I don't know... I just choose the raw nori to be sure. Soak the nori prior to blending... you can soak it in ro/di or in some boiled then cooled tank water. BigAl, if you want to add thickness to the mush, blend in a few pieces of raw/fresh shrimp. Not only do the fish love the shrimp but it helps to hold the mush together very well.... sort of like gellatin but better My homemade mush is never the same recipe.... variety __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

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