fragging devils hand

framerguy · 01-07-2008, 07:07 PM

I've seen SPS fragging but have never witnessed or done soft coral fragging. I have a friend I would like to give some of my devils hand to. Do I just "lop off one of the "fingers" and rubberband it to a plug? Thanks guys and gals!

panmanmatt · 01-07-2008, 07:15 PM

Yup, just lop it off. Use either a sharp scalpel, razor blade or pair of scissors.

To attach you can do it a few ways:

Rubber band it to a rock
Loosely rubber band it between to small pieces of rock
Use some thread and a needle to sew it to a rock
Just place it in a small container full of rubble and let it be
Or you can try a little dab of super glue to attach it to the rock. I have used this with kenyas and toadstools without trouble but the slimier leathers just slide off the glue

framerguy · 01-07-2008, 07:44 PM

Thank you very much!

panmanmatt · 01-07-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by framerguy

Thank you very much!

Anytime.

Bwlr · 01-07-2008, 09:04 PM

Could you post some before and after pics?
I've got a large devils hand, and was thinking about fragging it... but not if it will end up looking all chewed up.

Thanks.

vdituri · 01-07-2008, 09:39 PM

Fraggin is the easy part, its the attaching that is tricky with leathers.

panmanmatt · 01-07-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vdituri

Fraggin is the easy part, its the attaching that is tricky with leathers.

Mine always attach within a few days.

vdituri · 01-07-2008, 09:49 PM

What method do you use?

When I've tried superglue they just slime up and unattach.

panmanmatt · 01-07-2008, 09:57 PM

Depending on the type of leather I use either super glue (kenya trees, toadstool, lobophytons) or for the slimier leathers, (sinularia, nepthea, xenia) lately I have been using the small 4" plastic zip ties.

vdituri · 01-07-2008, 10:15 PM

Are you using the zip ties to loop around the coral and the rock?

I've trying with nepthias with limited results. They resist any kind of glueing, but putting in a bowl of rubble seems to be working well.

panmanmatt · 01-07-2008, 10:19 PM

Yup, pierce the coral with the zip tie and then wrap it around the rock. May have to use more than one tie depending on the size of the rock.

You can see here fro when I fragged my nepthea last time.

vdituri · 01-07-2008, 11:31 PM

Ouch! I'm licenced to do piercings in California. lol

Great idea. I'll try that next time.

framerguy · 01-07-2008, 11:34 PM

I knew you guys would want before and afters. I thought of it after though. I only snipped one finger off and couldn't even tell anything was missing. The coral didn't even seem to mind, no pouting or anything. I used a needle and thread and sewed through the flesh and tied it to a piece of cats paw coral skeleton. I'll try and get a pic tomorrow of the "missing finger" and the hand it came from.

ninjataco777 · 01-07-2008, 11:40 PM

i did this to a cladiella once. i used scissors, but i ditched the frags.

JT101 · 01-10-2008, 03:45 PM

Once you lop off the ears of a leather coral, and attach it to a piece of LR, how long before it actually begins to grow a new stem? I understand that it may take a few days just to reattach to the LR but how long does a new stem take to grow?

Thx
John

01-07-2008, 07:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	fragging devils hand I've seen SPS fragging but have never witnessed or done soft coral fragging. I have a friend I would like to give some of my devils hand to. Do I just "lop off one of the "fingers" and rubberband it to a plug? Thanks guys and gals! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

01-07-2008, 07:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,895 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: fragging devils hand Yup, just lop it off. Use either a sharp scalpel, razor blade or pair of scissors. To attach you can do it a few ways: Rubber band it to a rock Loosely rubber band it between to small pieces of rock Use some thread and a needle to sew it to a rock Just place it in a small container full of rubble and let it be Or you can try a little dab of super glue to attach it to the rock. I have used this with kenyas and toadstools without trouble but the slimier leathers just slide off the glue __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-07-2008, 07:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: fragging devils hand Thank you very much! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

01-07-2008, 09:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bwlr Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: I give up. Posts: 1,123 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: fragging devils hand Could you post some before and after pics? I've got a large devils hand, and was thinking about fragging it... but not if it will end up looking all chewed up. Thanks. __________________ ~Scott

01-07-2008, 09:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,719 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: fragging devils hand Fraggin is the easy part, its the attaching that is tricky with leathers. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

01-07-2008, 09:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,719 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: fragging devils hand What method do you use? When I've tried superglue they just slime up and unattach. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

01-07-2008, 09:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,895 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: fragging devils hand Depending on the type of leather I use either super glue (kenya trees, toadstool, lobophytons) or for the slimier leathers, (sinularia, nepthea, xenia) lately I have been using the small 4" plastic zip ties. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-07-2008, 10:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,719 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: fragging devils hand Are you using the zip ties to loop around the coral and the rock? I've trying with nepthias with limited results. They resist any kind of glueing, but putting in a bowl of rubble seems to be working well. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

01-07-2008, 10:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,895 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: fragging devils hand Yup, pierce the coral with the zip tie and then wrap it around the rock. May have to use more than one tie depending on the size of the rock. You can see here fro when I fragged my nepthea last time. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-07-2008, 11:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,719 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: fragging devils hand Ouch! I'm licenced to do piercings in California. lol Great idea. I'll try that next time. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

01-07-2008, 11:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: fragging devils hand I knew you guys would want before and afters. I thought of it after though. I only snipped one finger off and couldn't even tell anything was missing. The coral didn't even seem to mind, no pouting or anything. I used a needle and thread and sewed through the flesh and tied it to a piece of cats paw coral skeleton. I'll try and get a pic tomorrow of the "missing finger" and the hand it came from. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

01-07-2008, 11:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
ninjataco777 Scopas Tang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south jersey Posts: 470 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: fragging devils hand i did this to a cladiella once. i used scissors, but i ditched the frags. __________________ "Take the warning labels off and let the problem solve itself" RS Nano Club My 29 Gallon Oceanic Biocube Reef Chronicle http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...c-biocube.html ANTI-WALDO ANTI-BIO-BALL ANTI-CARRIBEAN BRISTLEWORM

01-10-2008, 03:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
JT101 Neon dottyback Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hicksville NY Posts: 605 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: fragging devils hand Once you lop off the ears of a leather coral, and attach it to a piece of LR, how long before it actually begins to grow a new stem? I understand that it may take a few days just to reattach to the LR but how long does a new stem take to grow? Thx John

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