Brain Wart Growth

caitrina · 07-20-2007, 01:38 AM

OK, I posted pics yesterday of the wart looking thing on my brain, today it is bigger and again looks like a clear bubble. I have better pictures of it tonight and maybe you can see the wart growth thing better on these. Now any other guesses or suggestions as to what it might be...no Steve it isn't a loogy! lol

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charlesr1958 · 07-20-2007, 05:52 AM

Am assuming you are talking about the dark thing sticking up towards the center of the coral, if so, it appears to me to be an invasive invert, possibly either a Vermetid snail or a Spionid worm. To be rid of such critters, you can take a tweezers and pinch it off as close to the base of the critter as you can without pinching coral tissue, once dead, the coral should easily regain over that lost ground.

Chuck

caitrina · 07-20-2007, 07:48 AM

Thats the thing I am talking about. When I had seen it before I took the coral out and messed with that little bubble thinking it was bubble algae. Now the little thing is back and seems to get bigger right before my very eyes. Thanks for the suggestion. Anyone else have any other input since I have better pictures of this thing?

mps9506 · 07-20-2007, 08:04 AM

Weird, looks like an air bubble attached to the top of it. I haven't had to deal with Vermetid snail or a Spionid worm so I would follow Charles' advice. I do agree that the coral should not have any issues growing over it once it is dead.
It almost looks like dinoflagellate that had attached to an outgrowth of the skeleton, but in that case the bubble would just come off once you touched it.

BigAl07 · 07-20-2007, 08:10 AM

I have little expereince with this (either that coral or bubble algae) but that does look like what I have seen at a Fish Store and it was bubble algae per the store owner. He said it was a fairly fast growing thing and something about when he popped the bubbles it released more spores into the tank. I think there are some other threads here on RS about bubble algae so you may try a search here for it.

Good luck and sorry for the "iffy" response from Me!!

Allen

charlesr1958 · 07-20-2007, 08:52 AM

Was that spot an open wound or bare skeletal area at anytime? If so, it could also be cyano growing on it and standing up like that as it produces oxygen bubbles. You could try a very soft toothbrush, and VERY, VERY gently swipe that spot and see it it lifts off, very gentle swipes will not hurt the corals tissue as I have done this numerous times with damaged corals before. If it turns out to be a hard or semi-flexable protrusion, then its tweezers time...lol

Chuck

caitrina · 07-20-2007, 06:15 PM

No that coral has never been damaged or has his skeleton ever shown, at least to the best of my knowledge and I have had this coral for about a year, maybe a little more. I have not done anything to it yet and it has grown some more. The bubble no longer looks like a bubble, but it almost looks like some type of coral or something with spores. I don't think it is bubble algae. I thought that was what it was to begin with and had taken it from the tank to pop it in a closed container that would not contaminate my tank. Anyway, I think I am going to wait another day or two just to see what it does. Here is another picture of the brain as it was today.

sasquatch · 07-20-2007, 06:43 PM

its a loogie, just waiting for a wipe.

goldenmean · 07-20-2007, 07:23 PM

I think it is a good idea to just watch it right now.
Your brain is inflated
so whatever it is does not seem to be bothering him

Brian_pham7 · 07-20-2007, 11:09 PM

haha you guys are cool, sorry about the growth though, you can figure me as not much help right now, but I like the learning experience

caitrina · 07-20-2007, 11:34 PM

Hey, thats what the whole learning experience is about...growth...lol, boy, I'm good!

caitrina · 07-21-2007, 10:05 AM

IT is growing, today there is another bubble and it appears that when the clear bubble appears the next day it is a solid form where the bubble was. It is growing up and a little to the side. Maybe I should put a sign out there next to it, caution, construction zone....I don't know but I am going to continue to just watch it and see what happens.

sasquatch · 07-21-2007, 01:21 PM

The doctor tried to squeeze the wart.
He tried to twist and turn it.
He tried to scrape and shave the wart.
He tried to boil and burn it.

He poked it with a pair of tongs.
He pulled it with his tweezers.
He held it under heat lamps,
and he crammed it into freezers.

Regrettably these treatments
were of very little use.
He looked at it and sputtered,
"Ach! I cannot get it loose!"

How could I resist. Steve

caitrina · 07-21-2007, 01:28 PM

But he didn't try Compund W ???????????

I love it...made my day, thanks for the humor. Where would we be without it?

sasquatch · 07-21-2007, 02:26 PM

Lol in the end he uses nuclear devices, poor Willie is gone but the wart remained

07-20-2007, 01:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,576 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Brain Wart Growth OK, I posted pics yesterday of the wart looking thing on my brain, today it is bigger and again looks like a clear bubble. I have better pictures of it tonight and maybe you can see the wart growth thing better on these. Now any other guesses or suggestions as to what it might be...no Steve it isn't a loogy! lol Picture 1 Pic 2 pic 3 __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html Last edited by caitrina : 07-20-2007 at 01:42 AM. Reason: Added a closer upper...

07-20-2007, 05:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
charlesr1958 Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mactan Island, The Philippines Posts: 292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Brain Wart Growth Am assuming you are talking about the dark thing sticking up towards the center of the coral, if so, it appears to me to be an invasive invert, possibly either a Vermetid snail or a Spionid worm. To be rid of such critters, you can take a tweezers and pinch it off as close to the base of the critter as you can without pinching coral tissue, once dead, the coral should easily regain over that lost ground. Chuck __________________ __________________________________________ "Politicians are like diapers, both should be changed, and changed often, for the same reason." - Robin Williams

07-20-2007, 07:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,576 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth Thats the thing I am talking about. When I had seen it before I took the coral out and messed with that little bubble thinking it was bubble algae. Now the little thing is back and seems to get bigger right before my very eyes. Thanks for the suggestion. Anyone else have any other input since I have better pictures of this thing? __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

07-20-2007, 08:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
mps9506 They misunderestimated me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Charlotte and Wilmington, NC Posts: 6,862 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Brain Wart Growth Weird, looks like an air bubble attached to the top of it. I haven't had to deal with Vermetid snail or a Spionid worm so I would follow Charles' advice. I do agree that the coral should not have any issues growing over it once it is dead. It almost looks like dinoflagellate that had attached to an outgrowth of the skeleton, but in that case the bubble would just come off once you touched it. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

07-20-2007, 08:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 8,844 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth I have little expereince with this (either that coral or bubble algae) but that does look like what I have seen at a Fish Store and it was bubble algae per the store owner. He said it was a fairly fast growing thing and something about when he popped the bubbles it released more spores into the tank. I think there are some other threads here on RS about bubble algae so you may try a search here for it. Good luck and sorry for the "iffy" response from Me!! Allen __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

07-20-2007, 08:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
charlesr1958 Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mactan Island, The Philippines Posts: 292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Brain Wart Growth Was that spot an open wound or bare skeletal area at anytime? If so, it could also be cyano growing on it and standing up like that as it produces oxygen bubbles. You could try a very soft toothbrush, and VERY, VERY gently swipe that spot and see it it lifts off, very gentle swipes will not hurt the corals tissue as I have done this numerous times with damaged corals before. If it turns out to be a hard or semi-flexable protrusion, then its tweezers time...lol Chuck __________________ __________________________________________ "Politicians are like diapers, both should be changed, and changed often, for the same reason." - Robin Williams

07-20-2007, 06:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,576 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth No that coral has never been damaged or has his skeleton ever shown, at least to the best of my knowledge and I have had this coral for about a year, maybe a little more. I have not done anything to it yet and it has grown some more. The bubble no longer looks like a bubble, but it almost looks like some type of coral or something with spores. I don't think it is bubble algae. I thought that was what it was to begin with and had taken it from the tank to pop it in a closed container that would not contaminate my tank. Anyway, I think I am going to wait another day or two just to see what it does. Here is another picture of the brain as it was today. __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

07-20-2007, 06:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,507 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth its a loogie, just waiting for a wipe. __________________ DIY stuff for my tank stand, 100g tank,rock lift, overflow, foam walls, closed loop,lighting reflectors, 50gal sump, bubbletrap and sock holder, ato bracket,kalk bucket and reservoir, 40gal fuge, fuge lighting, remotish dsb raceway, turf algae raceway, dual pumped recirc skimmer, more to follow. Barb ripped my sig

07-20-2007, 07:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
goldenmean Beautiful Katamari Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,689 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth I think it is a good idea to just watch it right now. Your brain is inflated so whatever it is does not seem to be bothering him __________________ A 55g link in the GoldenChain My First Quarantine Tank. 2 (+) Year Retrospective of a 12g Nano Jeff What You Think Upon Grows... Have a Smooth Day!

07-20-2007, 11:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
Brian_pham7 Tunicate Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 12 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth haha you guys are cool, sorry about the growth though, you can figure me as not much help right now, but I like the learning experience

07-20-2007, 11:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,576 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth Hey, thats what the whole learning experience is about...growth...lol, boy, I'm good! __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

07-21-2007, 10:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,576 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth IT is growing, today there is another bubble and it appears that when the clear bubble appears the next day it is a solid form where the bubble was. It is growing up and a little to the side. Maybe I should put a sign out there next to it, caution, construction zone....I don't know but I am going to continue to just watch it and see what happens. __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

07-21-2007, 01:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,507 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth The doctor tried to squeeze the wart. He tried to twist and turn it. He tried to scrape and shave the wart. He tried to boil and burn it. He poked it with a pair of tongs. He pulled it with his tweezers. He held it under heat lamps, and he crammed it into freezers. Regrettably these treatments were of very little use. He looked at it and sputtered, "Ach! I cannot get it loose!" How could I resist. Steve __________________ DIY stuff for my tank stand, 100g tank,rock lift, overflow, foam walls, closed loop,lighting reflectors, 50gal sump, bubbletrap and sock holder, ato bracket,kalk bucket and reservoir, 40gal fuge, fuge lighting, remotish dsb raceway, turf algae raceway, dual pumped recirc skimmer, more to follow. Barb ripped my sig

07-21-2007, 01:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,576 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth But he didn't try Compund W ??????????? I love it...made my day, thanks for the humor. Where would we be without it? __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

07-21-2007, 02:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,507 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Brain Wart Growth Lol in the end he uses nuclear devices, poor Willie is gone but the wart remained __________________ DIY stuff for my tank stand, 100g tank,rock lift, overflow, foam walls, closed loop,lighting reflectors, 50gal sump, bubbletrap and sock holder, ato bracket,kalk bucket and reservoir, 40gal fuge, fuge lighting, remotish dsb raceway, turf algae raceway, dual pumped recirc skimmer, more to follow. Barb ripped my sig

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