how do i know if my toadstool is dieing???

jck9 · 03-19-2007, 03:49 PM

it wasattached to the same rock as my finger leather and they were battleing for space so i cut it off the rock and sewed it to another rock in the tank. i did this about three or four days ago. it is significantly smaller and slimeing. the pollups start to come out but never do. will i know if it is dieing? should i not have cut it off its original rock?

cheeks69 · 03-19-2007, 03:58 PM

Leathers are very hardy and if it's not disintegrating I would leave it. If it's not happy it won't show polyp extension sometimes for several days to even longer.

mps9506 · 03-19-2007, 11:31 PM

Leathers can take a while to recover after fragging. Keep an eye on it. If it starts "melting" I would remove it. But they are generally very hardy and can stay closed for days or even weeks and then reopen like nothing ever happened.

Travis · 03-19-2007, 11:41 PM

Could be shedding as well. Just keep an eye out for "melting" as Mike said. They're hardy buggers... you'll probably have to try a lot harder than this to kill one.

Jorgens · 03-20-2007, 06:54 AM

great thread! I got mine 3 weeks ago and hase'nt shwon polyps yet....I was about to ask the same question....

Travis · 03-20-2007, 07:40 AM

3 weeks seems a little long. Was it a frag or wild-collected? Has it shed (gets glossy on the cap, thena layer of skin comes off)? You might want to try increasing flow a bit.

jck9 · 03-20-2007, 09:42 AM

it dosent look like its melting but it is shriveled and shrunk

BigAl07 · 05-01-2007, 08:36 AM

What does it mean to "shed" for this animal? Is this more like when the dark stringy stuff comes slipping off but the animal itself remains in tact? My devils finger is doing that right now. It looks wilted but the actual skin looks intact with some leathery stuff trailing off in the current. Hopefully this is "Shedding" and not wilting!

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Allen

mps9506 · 05-01-2007, 08:45 AM

Usually some type of slimey or waxy type substance starts coming off of it and it remains closed for a few days up to a a couple of weeks. Melting looks, well like melting, like someone heated it up and it started melting like candle wax.

Woodstock · 05-01-2007, 08:48 AM

Shedding is just a thin top layer of the coral; melting is the entire coral desintegrating and soon rotting.

Kirblit · 05-01-2007, 10:47 AM

When I fragged my toadstool it shrunk about 60% and was closed up for quite a few days before it opened up again, I'm with everyone else, they are very hardy and it will probobly be fine.

murkywaters · 05-01-2007, 02:43 PM

It took our finger leather a good month to polyp out after our crash. In fact it just came completely back in the last few days. It shed a few days ago and Danny vacuumed (using a water tube not a vacuum cleaner) it off and the leather polyped out and looks great. I wouldn't get nervous yet. Our other leather came back sooner. Our toad stool took two to three weeks.

03-19-2007, 03:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
jck9 Bryozoan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 46 View Gallery Karma Komment	how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? it wasattached to the same rock as my finger leather and they were battleing for space so i cut it off the rock and sewed it to another rock in the tank. i did this about three or four days ago. it is significantly smaller and slimeing. the pollups start to come out but never do. will i know if it is dieing? should i not have cut it off its original rock?

03-19-2007, 03:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,533 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? Leathers are very hardy and if it's not disintegrating I would leave it. If it's not happy it won't show polyp extension sometimes for several days to even longer. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

03-19-2007, 11:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
mps9506 They misunderestimated me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Charlotte and Wilmington, NC Posts: 6,862 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? Leathers can take a while to recover after fragging. Keep an eye on it. If it starts "melting" I would remove it. But they are generally very hardy and can stay closed for days or even weeks and then reopen like nothing ever happened. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

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Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,330 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? Could be shedding as well. Just keep an eye out for "melting" as Mike said. They're hardy buggers... you'll probably have to try a lot harder than this to kill one. __________________ Help build the Encyclopedia of ReefKeeping Find over 1400 Reef Aquarium Articles at The Reef Aquarium Index

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Jorgens Scopas Tang Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 433 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? great thread! I got mine 3 weeks ago and hase'nt shwon polyps yet....I was about to ask the same question.... __________________ Proud member of the 200+ Club! http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...gens/Aquarium/ I have no fear of falling. Hitting the ground SUX tho....

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Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,330 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? 3 weeks seems a little long. Was it a frag or wild-collected? Has it shed (gets glossy on the cap, thena layer of skin comes off)? You might want to try increasing flow a bit. __________________ Help build the Encyclopedia of ReefKeeping Find over 1400 Reef Aquarium Articles at The Reef Aquarium Index

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jck9 Bryozoan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 46 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? it dosent look like its melting but it is shriveled and shrunk

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 8,844 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? What does it mean to "shed" for this animal? Is this more like when the dark stringy stuff comes slipping off but the animal itself remains in tact? My devils finger is doing that right now. It looks wilted but the actual skin looks intact with some leathery stuff trailing off in the current. Hopefully this is "Shedding" and not wilting! ???? Allen __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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mps9506 They misunderestimated me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Charlotte and Wilmington, NC Posts: 6,862 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? Usually some type of slimey or waxy type substance starts coming off of it and it remains closed for a few days up to a a couple of weeks. Melting looks, well like melting, like someone heated it up and it started melting like candle wax. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

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Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 21,673 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? Shedding is just a thin top layer of the coral; melting is the entire coral desintegrating and soon rotting. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~29 gal QT/Hospital tank~* *~3 gal Pico~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MH, dual Actinic t5s,AquaController III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

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Kirblit Cabbage Leather Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 397 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? When I fragged my toadstool it shrunk about 60% and was closed up for quite a few days before it opened up again, I'm with everyone else, they are very hardy and it will probobly be fine. __________________ 125g RR Kirby My reef chronicle http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...s-125-a-3.html

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murkywaters Elegance coral Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,238 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: how do i know if my toadstool is dieing??? It took our finger leather a good month to polyp out after our crash. In fact it just came completely back in the last few days. It shed a few days ago and Danny vacuumed (using a water tube not a vacuum cleaner) it off and the leather polyped out and looks great. I wouldn't get nervous yet. Our other leather came back sooner. Our toad stool took two to three weeks. __________________ GO SPURS GO Spurs are the champions whoot (I was offered deluxed accomodations in the doghouse for not updating this sooner) The videos below are of Mrs. Teresa Sasquatch, http://www.reefspace.net/video/video...859:Video:9950 http://www.reefspace.net/video/video...59:Video:10166

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