Propagted Corals. Im seeing a pattern?

sasquatch · 03-07-2007, 08:16 PM

Where I live we are bit behind on farmed corals, lately Im seeing a lot of corals at the LFS with "cast feet" and after a week or so alot of dead corals with cast feet. What Im wondering is this, when I buy plants at a green house they are "forced" with nutrient and lights and arrive in a mature state that quickly passes, is this the case with farmed corals, extreme lights, unreal water then a nasty black box to the lfs and subpar water and light then decline and maybe survival? Anyone have a bit of light to shed? Steve

boozeman · 03-07-2007, 08:36 PM

I think it is a combination... the stress they endure during shipping and then the sub-par condition at the LFS

sasquatch · 03-07-2007, 10:06 PM

It would be interesting to talk to a big operator about their grow out conditions, if the corals are raised in such a manor are they doomed right out of the gate, when you start getting corals Boozman will you be thinking about natural or propped?

saltwaterfarm · 03-07-2007, 10:46 PM

A lot of my corals come directly from a "coral farm". It is located about 35 min from my house. I have had good luck with most everything I have purchased there. I do know he uses 400w XM's and actinics ( I think T5's). Here's the thing that blows my mind. Guess what lighting he uses for the croceas?
Really, Guess!

prow · 03-07-2007, 11:02 PM

humm, 400w XM's and actinics????

saltwaterfarm · 03-07-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by prow

humm, 400w XM's and actinics????

For the Clams??? NOPE

lgerold · 03-07-2007, 11:28 PM

I'm thinkin', since we're supposed to be surprised, that he's using PC's.

DaBird · 03-07-2007, 11:31 PM

or sunlight

saltwaterfarm · 03-07-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBird

or sunlight

Dabird! That is correct. He says that he used to keep them inside, but they seem to do better in the "greenhouse".

DaddyJax · 03-15-2007, 07:17 AM

I have farmed corals for a couple of LFS and I can tell you that the subpar water conditions is the most likely culprit because I don't do anything special and it is anly a few minutes to the store for me and my corals along with all the others they would get would brown out in a week. I no longer farm for any LFS because of this!

prow · 03-15-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBird

or sunlight

thats what i meant to say.

03-07-2007, 08:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
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saltwaterfarm Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,222 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Propagted Corals. Im seeing a pattern? A lot of my corals come directly from a "coral farm". It is located about 35 min from my house. I have had good luck with most everything I have purchased there. I do know he uses 400w XM's and actinics ( I think T5's). Here's the thing that blows my mind. Guess what lighting he uses for the croceas? Really, Guess! __________________ Lisa 90 Gal AGA, DIY Sump/Fuge, Current Outer Orbit 250w MH's with T5's. AquaC Remora Pro Skimmer, RK2.[/font] Purple LTA, pair of Percula Clowns, Clams, Softies, Shrooms, Ricordea, Echinophyllia, Torch, Frogspawn, Blastos, Sponges, Acro, Wellso, the NEW Zoa Mountain, and some more stuff... 3 Gal Sexy Shrimp Pico. 29 Gal Oceanic BioCube, Current Sunpod 150w MH.

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