Nano Anemones?

koralkeepers · 09-17-2009, 11:52 AM

I just started a 15 gal nano tank. I want to get an anemone...So of course I have a few questions...

1) What kind of lighting is the best for anemones? Right now I'm sporting a PC fixture (2x36w), wich comes to 72w total. Over a 15 gal, that comes to 4.8w per gallon...Is that enough to house one of these neat little guys?

2) Are there any species that stay relatively small? Meaning that If I put it in the nano, I wont have to remove it due to its growing size later on...

3) Are there any steps/precautions you should take when housing anemones with corals? As of right now, I've got some various 'shrooms, and plan on getting some other random soft corals later on...
I've known people to have both in the same tank and never had a problem, but I just wanted to check and do my research before investing in an anemone.

Thanks in advance! -A

BigAl07 · 09-17-2009, 12:53 PM

1) What kind of lighting is the best for anemones? Right now I'm sporting a PC fixture (2x36w), wich comes to 72w total. Over a 15 gal, that comes to 4.8w per gallon...Is that enough to house one of these neat little guys?
Anemone require the BEST of the BEST! You want as much light energy as you can push into the water. High quality IDR T5's (as many as you can pack over the tank within reason) or Metal Halide. I wouldn't do anything less. I had 130w PC's over a 10g tank (that's 13 wpg for those of you who use that formula/rule) and I still lost the animal in under 6 months. It's not just about the wattage but also the intensity of the light going into the water.
2) Are there any species that stay relatively small? Meaning that If I put it in the nano, I wont have to remove it due to its growing size later on...
I wouldn't even consider adding one to anything smaller than a 30 and few species then. In addition to them easily outgrowing a smaller tank they need the BEST water quality and the most stable tank conditions possible. These both come easier with larger tanks.
3) Are there any steps/precautions you should take when housing anemones with corals? As of right now, I've got some various 'shrooms, and plan on getting some other random soft corals later on...
I've known people to have both in the same tank and never had a problem, but I just wanted to check and do my research before investing in an anemone.Yes MANY!
a) Make sure all pumps, powerheads and filters are ANEMONE proofed with netting or screens. Each day you'll see threads on here about "My anemone got into the powerhead and it's now dead!
b) They tend to MOVE whenever and where-ever they want. Many times where THEY want isn't the best place for you to view them. They are mobile animals and will move where they want. If your zoas, leathers, mushrooms or whatever are on the way then they will most likely fall victim to a powerful and often times deadly sting. If I were setting up a tank and wanted to have an anemone I would make sure there were few other coral in the tank at the time just in case it wanders around. Even after it's "settled" there is no guarantee it wont start wandering around at a later time. One piece of information you need to realize is that these are an animal for advanced aquarist. Not a beginner animal in the least. They are VERY sensitive to less than perfect water quality and even more sensitive to unstable water conditions. It's suggested that a tank be STABLE (not just up and running but stable) for more than 9 months before one is introduced to the tank.

framerguy · 09-17-2009, 01:05 PM

I second all that Al said and will add, don't get an anemone for that tank. It will not live...period.

AndtheBonus · 09-17-2009, 06:18 PM

Well said Big Al!

koralkeepers · 09-18-2009, 09:50 AM

Jeez...I'll tell ya what...I'm not even going to bother posting any more threads...This wouldn't be the first time Big Al's steered me into the clear. I'm just going straight to him from here on out! hahaha I greatly appreciate it!
That settles it...no anemones for me!

Thank you all for your input! -A

BigAl07 · 09-18-2009, 10:25 AM

KK I'm honored you'd say that. I just get lucky sometimes and tend to have some "Free" Time to post and try to help out. Keep in mind that my advice is merely how I HAVE or think I WOULD do it. I like to offer advice but always remember I make more than my share of mistakes

Good luck and Happy Reefing

cbrownfish · 09-18-2009, 10:51 PM

Aiptasia or Majano Anemones will do just fine in a 15 gallon. I am confident that you can find them for free here if you are willing to pay for shipping.

koralkeepers · 09-22-2009, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

KK I'm honored you'd say that. I just get lucky sometimes and tend to have some "Free" Time to post and try to help out. Keep in mind that my advice is merely how I HAVE or think I WOULD do it. I like to offer advice but always remember I make more than my share of mistakes

Good luck and Happy Reefing

Hey, no prob! Like I said, you've steered me into the clear multiple times now!

Exactly... everyone makes mistakes, I'm just here doing research and asking questions, so I can learn from everyone else's mistakes. While keeping my own down to a minimum.

If I ever have to second guess something; Right to the forum I go!

koralkeepers · 09-22-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbrownfish

Aiptasia or Majano Anemones will do just fine in a 15 gallon. I am confident that you can find them for free here if you are willing to pay for shipping.

Hahahahaha! Thats quite alright...thanks for the look out tho

seafansar · 09-22-2009, 12:04 PM

You could get mini carpets. A clownfish won't host them, but they are an anemone and will stay small, look pretty cool too. You could also get a yuma or fl ricordea. I have two yumas that really look like anemones cause I put them in the shade and they're stretching about 3 inches to get some light.

BigAl07 · 09-22-2009, 12:22 PM

Sara how big do the mini's get? I've not seen any available here locally but would like to check them out.

seafansar · 09-22-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

Sara how big do the mini's get? I've not seen any available here locally but would like to check them out.

I don't really know, but I saw a picture of a tank that had a few and the biggest ones looked maybe 3" across. I've never actually seen any in person. Wish I could find a picture of that guy's tank. He had a lot of nice minis.

BigAl07 · 09-22-2009, 01:44 PM

Ah so you're making this up?

Just kidding

If you find the link shoot it over. I'd love to see them.

lcstorc · 09-22-2009, 02:41 PM

"ON SALE" Mini Red Carpet Anemone :: AtlantisAquarium.net
Stichodactyla tapetum - Saltwaterfish.com Message Boards

I know they were discussed before. I didn't think there was such a thing but I was proven wrong. They seem to be hard to get but easy to care for.
Try a google image search on
Stichodactyla tapetum

JeF4y · 09-22-2009, 03:26 PM

what about Rock Flower Anemones?

We got one when we started stocking our 29 and it has done great under the PC lighting and isn't very big at all.

It's now in a 60 and we have excellent T5 lighting, but still, when people mention anemones nobody ever mentions the Rock Flower 'nems and I think it was perfect for a nano...

Comments?

09-17-2009, 11:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
koralkeepers Bryozoan Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Middle of Florida Posts: 56 View Gallery Karma Komment	Nano Anemones? I just started a 15 gal nano tank. I want to get an anemone...So of course I have a few questions... 1) What kind of lighting is the best for anemones? Right now I'm sporting a PC fixture (2x36w), wich comes to 72w total. Over a 15 gal, that comes to 4.8w per gallon...Is that enough to house one of these neat little guys? 2) Are there any species that stay relatively small? Meaning that If I put it in the nano, I wont have to remove it due to its growing size later on... 3) Are there any steps/precautions you should take when housing anemones with corals? As of right now, I've got some various 'shrooms, and plan on getting some other random soft corals later on... I've known people to have both in the same tank and never had a problem, but I just wanted to check and do my research before investing in an anemone. Thanks in advance! -A

09-17-2009, 12:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Nerd :) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 24,150 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano Anemones? 1) What kind of lighting is the best for anemones? Right now I'm sporting a PC fixture (2x36w), wich comes to 72w total. Over a 15 gal, that comes to 4.8w per gallon...Is that enough to house one of these neat little guys? Anemone require the BEST of the BEST! You want as much light energy as you can push into the water. High quality IDR T5's (as many as you can pack over the tank within reason) or Metal Halide. I wouldn't do anything less. I had 130w PC's over a 10g tank (that's 13 wpg for those of you who use that formula/rule) and I still lost the animal in under 6 months. It's not just about the wattage but also the intensity of the light going into the water. 2) Are there any species that stay relatively small? Meaning that If I put it in the nano, I wont have to remove it due to its growing size later on... I wouldn't even consider adding one to anything smaller than a 30 and few species then. In addition to them easily outgrowing a smaller tank they need the BEST water quality and the most stable tank conditions possible. These both come easier with larger tanks. 3) Are there any steps/precautions you should take when housing anemones with corals? As of right now, I've got some various 'shrooms, and plan on getting some other random soft corals later on... I've known people to have both in the same tank and never had a problem, but I just wanted to check and do my research before investing in an anemone.Yes MANY! a) Make sure all pumps, powerheads and filters are ANEMONE proofed with netting or screens. Each day you'll see threads on here about "My anemone got into the powerhead and it's now dead! b) They tend to MOVE whenever and where-ever they want. Many times where THEY want isn't the best place for you to view them. They are mobile animals and will move where they want. If your zoas, leathers, mushrooms or whatever are on the way then they will most likely fall victim to a powerful and often times deadly sting. If I were setting up a tank and wanted to have an anemone I would make sure there were few other coral in the tank at the time just in case it wanders around. Even after it's "settled" there is no guarantee it wont start wandering around at a later time. One piece of information you need to realize is that these are an animal for advanced aquarist. Not a beginner animal in the least. They are VERY sensitive to less than perfect water quality and even more sensitive to unstable water conditions. It's suggested that a tank be STABLE (not just up and running but stable) for more than 9 months before one is introduced to the tank. __________________ > > > >Read ME < < < < when you're in need of answers or help with your tank. *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Big Al's 10g.... BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle.... Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef.... DIY LED Fixture - Allens OFFICE 12g by chipmunkofdoom2

09-17-2009, 01:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano Anemones? I second all that Al said and will add, don't get an anemone for that tank. It will not live...period. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

09-17-2009, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
AndtheBonus Plate Coral Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 786 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Nano Anemones? Well said Big Al! __________________ 24g Aquapod Want GSP? PM me.

09-18-2009, 09:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
koralkeepers Bryozoan Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Middle of Florida Posts: 56 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Nano Anemones? Jeez...I'll tell ya what...I'm not even going to bother posting any more threads...This wouldn't be the first time Big Al's steered me into the clear. I'm just going straight to him from here on out! hahaha I greatly appreciate it! That settles it...no anemones for me! Thank you all for your input! -A

09-18-2009, 10:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Nerd :) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 24,150 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano Anemones? KK I'm honored you'd say that. I just get lucky sometimes and tend to have some "Free" Time to post and try to help out. Keep in mind that my advice is merely how I HAVE or think I WOULD do it. I like to offer advice but always remember I make more than my share of mistakes Good luck and Happy Reefing __________________ > > > >Read ME < < < < when you're in need of answers or help with your tank. *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Big Al's 10g.... BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle.... Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef.... DIY LED Fixture - Allens OFFICE 12g by chipmunkofdoom2

09-18-2009, 10:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
cbrownfish Acropora Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,917 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Nano Anemones? Aiptasia or Majano Anemones will do just fine in a 15 gallon. I am confident that you can find them for free here if you are willing to pay for shipping. __________________ *Confucius Say: "best way to save face, is to keep lower part of face shut".* CURRENT SET UP -- 90 gallon display, 30 gallon refugium, 6 gallon pod breeder, 100 gallon sump (complete with frag rack), 2X250 MH 14K DE HQI, Vortech MP40w and Koralia #4 for flow, 2X Tunze 9010 Skimmers, Sequence Dart return, 2X Ranco Controllers w/Titanium Heaters, 150 lb LR (90 in display, 60 in sump), 5" DSB, Mixed reef - Softies, LPS, SPS, Clams.

09-22-2009, 12:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
seafansar Reef Lobster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 1,610 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Nano Anemones? You could get mini carpets. A clownfish won't host them, but they are an anemone and will stay small, look pretty cool too. You could also get a yuma or fl ricordea. I have two yumas that really look like anemones cause I put them in the shade and they're stretching about 3 inches to get some light. __________________ -Sara SW since Jan. '08 150 gallon SPS reef 45 gallon cube 150 tank thread 45 cube thread My Reefnook

09-22-2009, 12:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Nerd :) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 24,150 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano Anemones? Sara how big do the mini's get? I've not seen any available here locally but would like to check them out. __________________ > > > >Read ME < < < < when you're in need of answers or help with your tank. *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Big Al's 10g.... BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle.... Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef.... DIY LED Fixture - Allens OFFICE 12g by chipmunkofdoom2

09-22-2009, 01:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Nerd :) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 24,150 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano Anemones? Ah so you're making this up? Just kidding If you find the link shoot it over. I'd love to see them. __________________ > > > >Read ME < < < < when you're in need of answers or help with your tank. *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Big Al's 10g.... BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle.... Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef.... DIY LED Fixture - Allens OFFICE 12g by chipmunkofdoom2

09-22-2009, 02:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,482 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano Anemones? "ON SALE" Mini Red Carpet Anemone :: AtlantisAquarium.net Stichodactyla tapetum - Saltwaterfish.com Message Boards I know they were discussed before. I didn't think there was such a thing but I was proven wrong. They seem to be hard to get but easy to care for. Try a google image search on Stichodactyla tapetum __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

09-22-2009, 03:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
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