Sebae Anemone

AJinNY · 08-11-2004, 10:11 PM

Hi all.

Im looking to all you experienced peeps to help me out on this one.

I just got a sebae anemone...he looks white with little itty bitty purple tips.

He is laying on his side at the bottom of the tank and its base (the bulb or whatever you call it has expanded).

The problem is the anemone isnt rolling around trying to find its "sweet" spot and take up residence...it isnt attaching itself to a rock or anything.

Is there something wrong u think? How long should I give it before panicing?

Thanks guys!

AJ

Witfull · 08-11-2004, 10:15 PM

first it sounds like it is bleached form stress, second it is acclimating to the tank. hopefully in a few days he will settle in.

AJinNY · 08-11-2004, 10:29 PM

what do u mean bleached from stress? I bought it this color.

Also if it DOESNT take, does that mean itll die?

Witfull · 08-11-2004, 10:50 PM

anemones will expell their zoox when stressed, they are naturally brownish. feed it well and give it good light. they can regrow their zoox.

AJinNY · 08-11-2004, 11:20 PM

ok but why is it just lying on its side?

when i got the rose bubble tip anemone he kept rolling around until he found his new home.

the sebae is just laying there doing nothing.

Witfull · 08-11-2004, 11:43 PM

stress. do you have a sand bed? if so, dis a wallow out at the base of a rock that gets full light. place him there and apply rule one of reefing...patience.

AJinNY · 08-12-2004, 01:06 AM

I did....but he turned around so the tentacles are facing the rock and the base is facing the outside...sort of like he is shy and hiding his face.

even at the lfs he didnt attach himself to any rock....he didnt find a spot that was happy....the guy gave him to me and said he would replace it if it didnt work out but said it woul dbe worth a shot.

so I honestly dont know.

is this normal for a new anemone?

Travis · 08-12-2004, 01:34 AM

Sorry I can't help you on this one, never had an anemone because my tanks have never really been stable enough. But good luck with it. I seem to remember sebaes being pretty darned white so perhaps it's not bleached?

T

AJinNY · 08-12-2004, 01:36 AM

im not worried about the color....Im just worried that he isnt rolling around and trying to find a spot to make his home.

And how long until the percs make nice with it?

Witfull · 08-12-2004, 01:45 AM

look here

BoomerD · 08-12-2004, 02:22 AM

Sebaes have a tendency to be one of the more difficult anemones to keep...They require excellent water quality and very intense (metal halides) lights...The light is perhaps the only way they will regain/regrow their zoanthelle, which provides much of their food. I haven't kept sebaes since I found out about the bleaching issue over 10 years ago, so I really can't help with the issues at hand...How did you acclimate it? Many anemones are quite tempermental about that, as well as handling at the LFS and on the way home...
Here's some more information on them, and be sure to go through the FAQs, as there is a wealth of knowledge there too...
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/in...eraccrispa.htm

And here:
http://www.carlosreef.com/AnemoneFAQ.pdf

reefjitsu · 08-12-2004, 03:46 AM

White is not a natural color of sebae anenomes. Any white sebae is a stressed anemone that has expelled its benefical algae and most of its pigments. Only the purple pigment remains in the tips because that pigment is not as easily expelled as the rest. An anemone in this state can recover given enough time and excellent water quality, feedings and lots of light. However, since your anemone is not really responding anymore and is no longer trying to attatch to any substrate then chances are that it is already past the point of saving. I hate to say it but truthfully your anemone is dying. It is not an entirely hopeless situation but it will probably just linger for a while (possibly weeks) and then die.

AJinNY · 08-12-2004, 09:36 AM

well it just turned over so now I can see its front and its base is now on the bottom which I would think it is where it should be.

it does not look like its digging into the sand nor attaching itself to the nearby rock. But at least it turned over.

So maybe theres hope?

Why dont the perc step in to help him out a little?

Witfull · 08-12-2004, 11:58 AM

if they are TR percs they may not know what it is, and in the anemones current state their pestering would only stress it more.

there is always hope!

AJinNY · 08-12-2004, 05:36 PM

They are false percs, so given that, how long does it usually take for them to start a relationship with the anemone?

If things go ok will it turn brown first or get sticky and attach itself somewhere? Hopefully this will happen in a month?

Also if it dies, what will it look like? And how bad is the smell? I asked the guy at the lfs "how would I know if its dead"....He said "trust me, you will KNOW"!

Thanks for the responses.

08-11-2004, 10:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
AJinNY Plate Coral Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 722 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sebae Anemone Hi all. Im looking to all you experienced peeps to help me out on this one. I just got a sebae anemone...he looks white with little itty bitty purple tips. He is laying on his side at the bottom of the tank and its base (the bulb or whatever you call it has expanded). The problem is the anemone isnt rolling around trying to find its "sweet" spot and take up residence...it isnt attaching itself to a rock or anything. Is there something wrong u think? How long should I give it before panicing? Thanks guys! AJ

08-12-2004, 01:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,890 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Sorry I can't help you on this one, never had an anemone because my tanks have never really been stable enough. But good luck with it. I seem to remember sebaes being pretty darned white so perhaps it's not bleached? T __________________ Help build the Encyclopedia of ReefKeeping Find over 1400 Reef Aquarium Articles at The Reef Aquarium Index

08-12-2004, 02:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sebaes have a tendency to be one of the more difficult anemones to keep...They require excellent water quality and very intense (metal halides) lights...The light is perhaps the only way they will regain/regrow their zoanthelle, which provides much of their food. I haven't kept sebaes since I found out about the bleaching issue over 10 years ago, so I really can't help with the issues at hand...How did you acclimate it? Many anemones are quite tempermental about that, as well as handling at the LFS and on the way home... Here's some more information on them, and be sure to go through the FAQs, as there is a wealth of knowledge there too... http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/in...eraccrispa.htm And here: http://www.carlosreef.com/AnemoneFAQ.pdf __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

08-12-2004, 03:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
reefjitsu Plate Coral Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Magic City Posts: 758 View Gallery Karma Komment	White is not a natural color of sebae anenomes. Any white sebae is a stressed anemone that has expelled its benefical algae and most of its pigments. Only the purple pigment remains in the tips because that pigment is not as easily expelled as the rest. An anemone in this state can recover given enough time and excellent water quality, feedings and lots of light. However, since your anemone is not really responding anymore and is no longer trying to attatch to any substrate then chances are that it is already past the point of saving. I hate to say it but truthfully your anemone is dying. It is not an entirely hopeless situation but it will probably just linger for a while (possibly weeks) and then die. __________________ You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You got to keep on hoping and cover your ears and go "blah blah blah blah"- Futurama

08-11-2004, 10:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
AJinNY Plate Coral Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 722 View Gallery Karma Komment	what do u mean bleached from stress? I bought it this color. Also if it DOESNT take, does that mean itll die?

08-11-2004, 11:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
AJinNY Plate Coral Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 722 View Gallery Karma Komment	ok but why is it just lying on its side? when i got the rose bubble tip anemone he kept rolling around until he found his new home. the sebae is just laying there doing nothing.

08-12-2004, 01:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
AJinNY Plate Coral Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 722 View Gallery Karma Komment	I did....but he turned around so the tentacles are facing the rock and the base is facing the outside...sort of like he is shy and hiding his face. even at the lfs he didnt attach himself to any rock....he didnt find a spot that was happy....the guy gave him to me and said he would replace it if it didnt work out but said it woul dbe worth a shot. so I honestly dont know. is this normal for a new anemone?

08-12-2004, 01:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
AJinNY Plate Coral Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 722 View Gallery Karma Komment	im not worried about the color....Im just worried that he isnt rolling around and trying to find a spot to make his home. And how long until the percs make nice with it?

08-12-2004, 09:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
AJinNY Plate Coral Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 722 View Gallery Karma Komment	well it just turned over so now I can see its front and its base is now on the bottom which I would think it is where it should be. it does not look like its digging into the sand nor attaching itself to the nearby rock. But at least it turned over. So maybe theres hope? Why dont the perc step in to help him out a little?

08-12-2004, 05:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
AJinNY Plate Coral Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 722 View Gallery Karma Komment	They are false percs, so given that, how long does it usually take for them to start a relationship with the anemone? If things go ok will it turn brown first or get sticky and attach itself somewhere? Hopefully this will happen in a month? Also if it dies, what will it look like? And how bad is the smell? I asked the guy at the lfs "how would I know if its dead"....He said "trust me, you will KNOW"! Thanks for the responses.

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