what to do with these?

sapien · 07-20-2008, 11:38 PM

I just got about 25lbs from another reefer and it is encrusted with tons of rock nems (Epicystis crucifer I believe) and it is in a brand new tank. Should I start calling LFS's tomorrow and get the rock down to one of them to care for? I know it would be nigh on impossible to care for them in a brand spankin new tank even with the old rock they are living on. They are on EVERY piece of rock. There is one half dollar size, a few quarter size, and a TON of small ones.
The pictures I have are here. I know the enlarged one is blurry but it is all I have.
Thanks
Dustin

sapien · 07-21-2008, 01:46 PM

Update
Reputable LFS has identified these a color-morph of Anemonia Majano.
Next Question
Since the tank hasn't even started to cycle yet should I just remove the rock and treat with hyposalinity? It seems the easiest course of action all things conisdered. LFS promoted scraping, but there is a ton. Injecting would take forever too.

Dustin

tidalzone · 07-22-2008, 11:53 AM

I use a Raccoon B-fly to rid my manjino and app's he likes them all but needs to be removed once job is done you might see if store will buy back one after you use it but they work great.

lcstorc · 07-22-2008, 12:53 PM

I don't think hyposalinity will take care of them but I could be wrong. I would "cook" the rock and wait for it to start your tank. The anemones shouldn't be able to live without light but the beneficial algae can.

sapien · 07-22-2008, 03:41 PM

Well I did some more research on them and agree with the light issue I would like to try that before I try anything else. Cooking the rock doesn't sound like a bad idea. Definitely in the running.

Octoman · 07-22-2008, 04:37 PM

Majano are some tough little buggers. I've found that they can go a pretty long time without light and they don't really care about low/high salinity. In fact, I found some alive and well in a bucket that has been sitting outside closed up for a week.

I've been successful with physical removal and Joe's Juice. If you keep them in the dark for a day or two, they start to loosen up their grip and you can yank them off the rock pretty easily. They also eat Joe's Juice up like it's yummy apple pie and then they dissolve from the inside out.

For removing large quantities, you could try cooking the rock, but I wouldn't be surprised if they survive that. I resorted to leaving a few of the worst rocks outside in the sun for a few days to kill large numbers of them. Of course, then you have to start over again with cycling the rock and anything else in the rock will die as well.

fatman · 07-22-2008, 04:52 PM

Hyposalinity will kill them and also most other invertebrates, if there are any such as polyps etc. It will slow the nitrifying bacteria down a bit, but they will pop back to normal very quickly once the salinity is brought back up.

07-20-2008, 11:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
sapien Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth VA Posts: 23 View Gallery Karma Komment	what to do with these? I just got about 25lbs from another reefer and it is encrusted with tons of rock nems (Epicystis crucifer I believe) and it is in a brand new tank. Should I start calling LFS's tomorrow and get the rock down to one of them to care for? I know it would be nigh on impossible to care for them in a brand spankin new tank even with the old rock they are living on. They are on EVERY piece of rock. There is one half dollar size, a few quarter size, and a TON of small ones. The pictures I have are here. I know the enlarged one is blurry but it is all I have. Thanks Dustin

07-21-2008, 01:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
sapien Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth VA Posts: 23 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: what to do with these? Update Reputable LFS has identified these a color-morph of Anemonia Majano. Next Question Since the tank hasn't even started to cycle yet should I just remove the rock and treat with hyposalinity? It seems the easiest course of action all things conisdered. LFS promoted scraping, but there is a ton. Injecting would take forever too. Dustin

07-22-2008, 11:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
tidalzone RS Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 26 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: what to do with these? I use a Raccoon B-fly to rid my manjino and app's he likes them all but needs to be removed once job is done you might see if store will buy back one after you use it but they work great.

07-22-2008, 12:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: what to do with these? I don't think hyposalinity will take care of them but I could be wrong. I would "cook" the rock and wait for it to start your tank. The anemones shouldn't be able to live without light but the beneficial algae can. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

07-22-2008, 03:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
sapien Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth VA Posts: 23 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: what to do with these? Well I did some more research on them and agree with the light issue I would like to try that before I try anything else. Cooking the rock doesn't sound like a bad idea. Definitely in the running.

07-22-2008, 04:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Octoman Majano Slayer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,574 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: what to do with these? Majano are some tough little buggers. I've found that they can go a pretty long time without light and they don't really care about low/high salinity. In fact, I found some alive and well in a bucket that has been sitting outside closed up for a week. I've been successful with physical removal and Joe's Juice. If you keep them in the dark for a day or two, they start to loosen up their grip and you can yank them off the rock pretty easily. They also eat Joe's Juice up like it's yummy apple pie and then they dissolve from the inside out. For removing large quantities, you could try cooking the rock, but I wouldn't be surprised if they survive that. I resorted to leaving a few of the worst rocks outside in the sun for a few days to kill large numbers of them. Of course, then you have to start over again with cycling the rock and anything else in the rock will die as well. __________________ Mark My tank thread... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-euphoria.html Tank build... http://55reef.blogspot.com/

07-22-2008, 04:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
fatman Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: what to do with these? Hyposalinity will kill them and also most other invertebrates, if there are any such as polyps etc. It will slow the nitrifying bacteria down a bit, but they will pop back to normal very quickly once the salinity is brought back up.

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