Bleached Anenome At LFS

Tosh_Auer · 03-28-2004, 05:34 AM

My LFS has a whole heap of anenome's that are very white. I looked at one that had attached itself to the wall of one aquarium and in the middle of the Anenome was a brownish colour. The thing i want to know have these been bleached and if so do you think i should take it up with the owner?

Tosh

Gina · 03-28-2004, 06:12 AM

Sounds to me like your looking at BTAS. Do any of these have a pink tip? Do you know the name of the anenome?

BoomerD · 03-28-2004, 06:34 AM

They could possibly be bleached Sebae anemones. Hard to say for sure without a good picture. Is there any color in the tips of the tentacles? Maybe a colored dot? Let us know.

Tosh_Auer · 03-28-2004, 06:45 AM

There BTA's and no there is no colour in the tips. Well in one there was a pinkish colour but only that one.

Tosh_Auer · 03-28-2004, 06:50 AM

Also would you advise against me buying one? They cost $40AUD and although they look awsome i hate anyone hurting any life for no reason other then looks. Instead i can get greenish ones from WA that cost $12AUD plus a $20AUD shipping fee. whats your opinion?

wooddood · 03-28-2004, 06:55 AM

just because it's white does'nt mean it's bleached, i just got a white one 2 weeks ago and the lfs owner i know very well said they were african anemones.

wooddood · 03-28-2004, 06:58 AM

here's a pic of mine.

BoomerD · 03-28-2004, 06:58 AM

Refresh us on your tank set-up. How long has it been running? What are your water parameters? What do you have for lighting? While the BTA's probably require the least amount of light, they still have to have fairly strong intense light, AND need to be hand fed bits of fish and/or shrimp 2 or 3 times per week. The better your light is, the less you have to target feed, but they will always require some feeding.

Maxx · 03-28-2004, 12:47 PM

I agree w/ Boomer D on this.....
You can save a bleached anemone, it just requires hard work, attention to detail and it needs to be "sticky" and willing to feed.
When I say sticky, I mean it should still have a feeding response. The tentacles should be sticky, and cling to the hand, the anemone should curl up around whatever intrudes into its tentacles and attempt to eat it. If you dont see these responses, I would take a pass. You can bring anemones back from being bleached, but its a long hard effort and does require regular constant feedings. And as Boomer mentioned, you will need good lighting, and the animal will have to adapt to the increased lighting.
HTH,
Nick

ReefLady · 03-28-2004, 02:58 PM

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The thing i want to know have these been bleached and if so do you think i should take it up with the owner?

Some anemones that are bleached are not bleached intentionally - bleaching is just a symptom of insufficient lighting. They could have been received by the LFS bleached/white.

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Also would you advise against me buying one?

If they are bleached, their health can come back - just understand that you are purchasing a sick / ill / possibly dying animal.

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african anemones

What are commonly referenced as "African Anemones" are Sebaes - Heteractis crispa. Wooddood - yours is definitely a Sebae, and (unfortunately) looks quite bleached.

This is a really good article to read: >The Tragedy of Artificially Colored Live Corals <. I understand that the article is about dyed corals, however, the care of a dyed coral/anemone is exactly the same as that of a bleached one (corals /anemones are bleached before they are dyed ~ the zooxanthellae has been expelled).

wooddood · 03-28-2004, 02:58 PM

you cant really tell buy my pic but mine acually has yellow tips.

ReefLady · 03-28-2004, 03:08 PM

As much as I hate to quote Dr. Ron ...

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These white anemones have been around for a long time, they are found under all sorts of common names. The bottom line is that they are probably Heteractis crispa. Whether they are naturally bleached animals from deep water or have been artifically bleached, they appear to lack zooxanthellae.

From Calfo's article:

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Bright colored tips (often purple) will remain if they were natural originally, as they generally are not a zooxanthellate pigment or readily aborted under duress.

wooddood · 03-28-2004, 03:17 PM

hmmm you maybe right teri but mine shows no ill effects and eats well and has accually grown in size in just the 2 weeks i have had it. it's all sucked into the rocks in the pic but i would say is at least 10 inches across. the lfs had it under pc lighting and i now have 2 250 watt 10k xm halides and 4 55 wat 03 actinics so i know i have the lighting for it. do you think it will darken up in color?

ReefLady · 03-28-2004, 03:26 PM

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do you think it will darken up in color?

If it is a bleached anemone, if it is kept well-fed, and has sufficient light available (which it appears that you have) - then, as it's regains its zooxanthellae, it will turn brownish/tannish/greenish in color.

It will be interesting to watch over time - it does sounds as if it is happy and well taken care of!

wooddood · 03-28-2004, 03:29 PM

thanks teri lets keep our fingers crossed.i really hope it does well.

03-28-2004, 05:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tosh_Auer Scopas Tang Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 469 View Gallery Karma Komment	Bleached Anenome At LFS My LFS has a whole heap of anenome's that are very white. I looked at one that had attached itself to the wall of one aquarium and in the middle of the Anenome was a brownish colour. The thing i want to know have these been bleached and if so do you think i should take it up with the owner? Tosh __________________ You Try Explaining to your girlfriend why you cant take her out cause you just spent $300 on lights for a fish tank. lol

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Gina Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,823 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sounds to me like your looking at BTAS. Do any of these have a pink tip? Do you know the name of the anenome? __________________ Gina and Mark's 75 Visit Our Sponsors Gina's Cube Gina

03-28-2004, 06:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tosh_Auer Scopas Tang Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 469 View Gallery Karma Komment	There BTA's and no there is no colour in the tips. Well in one there was a pinkish colour but only that one. __________________ You Try Explaining to your girlfriend why you cant take her out cause you just spent $300 on lights for a fish tank. lol

03-28-2004, 06:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tosh_Auer Scopas Tang Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 469 View Gallery Karma Komment	Also would you advise against me buying one? They cost $40AUD and although they look awsome i hate anyone hurting any life for no reason other then looks. Instead i can get greenish ones from WA that cost $12AUD plus a $20AUD shipping fee. whats your opinion? __________________ You Try Explaining to your girlfriend why you cant take her out cause you just spent $300 on lights for a fish tank. lol

03-28-2004, 06:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	just because it's white does'nt mean it's bleached, i just got a white one 2 weeks ago and the lfs owner i know very well said they were african anemones. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

03-28-2004, 06:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,633 View Gallery Karma Komment	They could possibly be bleached Sebae anemones. Hard to say for sure without a good picture. Is there any color in the tips of the tentacles? Maybe a colored dot? Let us know.

03-28-2004, 06:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	here's a pic of mine. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

03-28-2004, 06:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,633 View Gallery Karma Komment	Refresh us on your tank set-up. How long has it been running? What are your water parameters? What do you have for lighting? While the BTA's probably require the least amount of light, they still have to have fairly strong intense light, AND need to be hand fed bits of fish and/or shrimp 2 or 3 times per week. The better your light is, the less you have to target feed, but they will always require some feeding.

03-28-2004, 12:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	I agree w/ Boomer D on this..... You can save a bleached anemone, it just requires hard work, attention to detail and it needs to be "sticky" and willing to feed. When I say sticky, I mean it should still have a feeding response. The tentacles should be sticky, and cling to the hand, the anemone should curl up around whatever intrudes into its tentacles and attempt to eat it. If you dont see these responses, I would take a pass. You can bring anemones back from being bleached, but its a long hard effort and does require regular constant feedings. And as Boomer mentioned, you will need good lighting, and the animal will have to adapt to the increased lighting. HTH, Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

03-28-2004, 02:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	you cant really tell buy my pic but mine acually has yellow tips. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

03-28-2004, 03:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	hmmm you maybe right teri but mine shows no ill effects and eats well and has accually grown in size in just the 2 weeks i have had it. it's all sucked into the rocks in the pic but i would say is at least 10 inches across. the lfs had it under pc lighting and i now have 2 250 watt 10k xm halides and 4 55 wat 03 actinics so i know i have the lighting for it. do you think it will darken up in color? __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

03-28-2004, 03:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	thanks teri lets keep our fingers crossed.i really hope it does well. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

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