anemone splitting

seafansar · 05-30-2008, 02:13 AM

How long does it take a BTA to split? I think mine is starting to split, there's a hole in its foot, and I just wanted to know how long till it's done splitting. I'm hoping it's splitting and not just dying. I've had it for 7 weeks and it's grown from about 4" across to 6".

Here's a couple of pictures of it a few weeks ago.
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I'll take pictures of it tomorrow.

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 02:16 AM

Not sure on the time frame.
If it looks anything like the pictures it looks very healthy.

Hope it splits for you.

seafansar · 05-30-2008, 02:48 AM

It looked like that all day today; then shriveled up when the lights went out and expelled some waste. I looked at it with a flashlight and saw that its foot was pealing off the rock a little and there was a hole in it. So hopefully it's just splitting.
Funny thing is I just ordered another anemone, GBTA, for another tank. If I'd known this one was going to split, I'd just put the clone in the other tank. Oh well. At least I'll have more variety.

lcstorc · 05-30-2008, 07:32 AM

Mine was partially split for months. Now I finally have two and the lfs is going to take one in trade.

seafansar · 05-30-2008, 09:17 AM

Months! What?! When you say partially do you mean it had two mouths or it actually stayed partially torn for that long?

Mine is still all shriveled up and looks about the same as it did last night.

sasquatch · 05-30-2008, 09:44 AM

Sara youve had it 7 weeks? perhaps its splitting due to shock, tank change, overfeeding, waterchange differences can induce a split, how old is your tank and what are your test kits reading?

seafansar · 05-30-2008, 11:14 AM

Haha...overfeeding. There's no fish in the tank right now due to an ich outbreak, so I don't think overfeeding is the problem. And my last water change was about a week ago. And yes I've had it about 7 weeks. My last tests said everything was fine.

Ammonia: 0
Nitrites: 0
Nitrates: 0
pH: 8.5 just a tad high
Alk: 5.5
Temp: 79
Salinity: 1.0255
Phos: 0
And I'm using SeaChem tests.

My tank is a 125gal and about 5 months old. I know I got the anemone a little too early, but everything seemed to be stable. I pretty much just moved the tank, which was established, from its previous owner to my house. I used the same LR, most of the LS with some new, and some of the water.

The anemone has been doing great. It's grown about 2" across with feedings once a week of silversides and some mysid shrimp ~2 times a week. It's always sticky and ready to eat. And it's under MH's.

It does seem like it's splitting a little soon, but it might be because it's grown so much. Though I'm still not for certain it's splitting. It may have been attacked my a crab or something. Hopefully not though. I noticed my Hawaiian strawberry crab near it the last few days. He's big enough to do come damage, but I thought they were supposed to be reef safe.

BigAl07 · 05-30-2008, 11:15 AM

or it's just as happy as can be and wants to "go forth and split".

lcstorc · 05-30-2008, 11:21 AM

No mine did not have 2 mouths it was extremely stretched out with one part of the foot on one side of the rock and the other side of the foot on a nearby rock. It was extremely stretched for several months and I am not even sure exactly when it split. I thought it was splitting for several months and finally one part moved away from the other.

seafansar · 05-30-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

or it's just as happy as can be and wants to "go forth and split".

Haha...maybe!

seafansar · 05-30-2008, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

No mine did not have 2 mouths it was extremely stretched out with one part of the foot on one side of the rock and the other side of the foot on a nearby rock. It was extremely stretched for several months and I am not even sure exactly when it split. I thought it was splitting for several months and finally one part moved away from the other.

That's so weird. You'd think it wouldn't like to be stretched out like that for so long. Mine's not really stretching, just a little, that's why I'm a little worried.

lcstorc · 05-30-2008, 11:29 AM

I've had several nems do the same thing so I think of it as normal. First the foot stretches then eventually the two parts separate. I have never really looked to see when it develops 2 mouths. I suspect the mouth stretches like the foot and then one night splits into two.

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 11:31 AM

Someone once posted a pattern they used to induce splitting BTA anemones.
It involved heavy feeding then multiple water changes.
Sounds like you are pretty close to that. They split when food is plentiful so the clones have a better chance of survival and they split when conditions are stressful so that maybe one of the clones can carry on the family line.
They don't seem to need much of a reason to split.

BigAl07 · 05-30-2008, 11:47 AM

That's how us guys are... genetically designed to try to single "handedly" repopulate the planet after a disaster! Maybe we're anemones too

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 11:51 AM

lol! Never thought of it that way.
We do tend to get all grabby with our tentacles at the bars too. hmmmm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

That's how us guys are... genetically designed to try to single "handedly" repopulate the planet after a disaster! Maybe we're anemones too

05-30-2008, 02:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
seafansar Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 247 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	anemone splitting How long does it take a BTA to split? I think mine is starting to split, there's a hole in its foot, and I just wanted to know how long till it's done splitting. I'm hoping it's splitting and not just dying. I've had it for 7 weeks and it's grown from about 4" across to 6". Here's a couple of pictures of it a few weeks ago. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] I'll take pictures of it tomorrow. __________________ -Sara Member of Gainesville Reef Club http://www.gnvreef.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=445

05-30-2008, 02:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,772 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting Not sure on the time frame. If it looks anything like the pictures it looks very healthy. Hope it splits for you. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

05-30-2008, 02:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
seafansar Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 247 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting It looked like that all day today; then shriveled up when the lights went out and expelled some waste. I looked at it with a flashlight and saw that its foot was pealing off the rock a little and there was a hole in it. So hopefully it's just splitting. Funny thing is I just ordered another anemone, GBTA, for another tank. If I'd known this one was going to split, I'd just put the clone in the other tank. Oh well. At least I'll have more variety. __________________ -Sara Member of Gainesville Reef Club http://www.gnvreef.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=445

05-30-2008, 07:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,866 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting Mine was partially split for months. Now I finally have two and the lfs is going to take one in trade. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

05-30-2008, 09:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
seafansar Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 247 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting Months! What?! When you say partially do you mean it had two mouths or it actually stayed partially torn for that long? Mine is still all shriveled up and looks about the same as it did last night. __________________ -Sara Member of Gainesville Reef Club http://www.gnvreef.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=445

05-30-2008, 09:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting Sara youve had it 7 weeks? perhaps its splitting due to shock, tank change, overfeeding, waterchange differences can induce a split, how old is your tank and what are your test kits reading? __________________ castawayreefers.com

05-30-2008, 11:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
seafansar Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 247 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting Haha...overfeeding. There's no fish in the tank right now due to an ich outbreak, so I don't think overfeeding is the problem. And my last water change was about a week ago. And yes I've had it about 7 weeks. My last tests said everything was fine. Ammonia: 0 Nitrites: 0 Nitrates: 0 pH: 8.5 just a tad high Alk: 5.5 Temp: 79 Salinity: 1.0255 Phos: 0 And I'm using SeaChem tests. My tank is a 125gal and about 5 months old. I know I got the anemone a little too early, but everything seemed to be stable. I pretty much just moved the tank, which was established, from its previous owner to my house. I used the same LR, most of the LS with some new, and some of the water. The anemone has been doing great. It's grown about 2" across with feedings once a week of silversides and some mysid shrimp ~2 times a week. It's always sticky and ready to eat. And it's under MH's. It does seem like it's splitting a little soon, but it might be because it's grown so much. Though I'm still not for certain it's splitting. It may have been attacked my a crab or something. Hopefully not though. I noticed my Hawaiian strawberry crab near it the last few days. He's big enough to do come damage, but I thought they were supposed to be reef safe. __________________ -Sara Member of Gainesville Reef Club http://www.gnvreef.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=445

05-30-2008, 11:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting or it's just as happy as can be and wants to "*go forth and split". __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate* (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

05-30-2008, 11:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,866 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting No mine did not have 2 mouths it was extremely stretched out with one part of the foot on one side of the rock and the other side of the foot on a nearby rock. It was extremely stretched for several months and I am not even sure exactly when it split. I thought it was splitting for several months and finally one part moved away from the other. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

05-30-2008, 11:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,866 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting I've had several nems do the same thing so I think of it as normal. First the foot stretches then eventually the two parts separate. I have never really looked to see when it develops 2 mouths. I suspect the mouth stretches like the foot and then one night splits into two. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

05-30-2008, 11:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,772 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting Someone once posted a pattern they used to induce splitting BTA anemones. It involved heavy feeding then multiple water changes. Sounds like you are pretty close to that. They split when food is plentiful so the clones have a better chance of survival and they split when conditions are stressful so that maybe one of the clones can carry on the family line. They don't seem to need much of a reason to split. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

05-30-2008, 11:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: anemone splitting That's how us guys are... genetically designed to try to single "handedly" repopulate the planet after a disaster! Maybe we're anemones too __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

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