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Old 02-04-2004, 06:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Good call on the frogspawn or another similar LPS...

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Old 02-04-2004, 06:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Ditto on the guess that you've got either a frogspawn or a torch coral. I usually attach those to the rock with aquastik putty. It's a 2-part epoxy that you knead together and then apply.
I find it easiest to attach LPS by kneading up a small ball of putty, pushing it into the coral skeleton first, then place the coral in a crevice or hole in the rock (so the putty has something 'good' to bond to). The stuff takes a few minutes to 'set', so I usually wait for a few minutes after kneading it up before I start this process... or you'll end up holding it in place for quite a while (about 7-10 minutes usually).
Did the LFS advertise it as a '6-head BTA'? Or was this self-identification?
I've been to some doozy LFS's in my time, but none that would sell a 6-Head BTA...
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Old 02-04-2004, 07:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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thanks luckyink that is exactly what it is. my tank has been set up for 10 days now. so i guess it is frogspawn. I did a 25% water change and waited about 4 hours and tested my PH 7.8, Nitrite 0ppm, Nitrate 0-5ppm, and ammonia 0ppm. the lfs said it was bubble tip with 6 frags aka heads they told me. So this frogspawn is this hardy or what? They sold it to me for $40. and now that I can't take it back I do not want to waste anymore money.
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Old 02-04-2004, 07:34 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Also my lighting is 10 watt 50/50 flourescent/actinic.
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Old 02-04-2004, 07:43 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I think that it really is way too early to introduce any corals, fish, etc... into your tank as it is only 10 days old. It typically takes a month or more for a tank to cycle (unless you used completely cured live rock...your levels might be low now because of the water change). Even then, most people don't reccomend the hardy corals until about 3 months after it has first been set up.

I could be wrong but the likliehood of that coral surviving is really jeopardized. Also, what kind of lights do you have on your tank?

I am no nano guy but a 10 gallon tank is going to present quite a few challenges as it is a very small system and problems can be amplified with such a little amount of water volume. Not to say it can't be done, but it is more difficult than say a 55 gallon in my opinion.

I don't really know where to start as far as suggestions are concerned. I guess the first thing to say is that you did come to the right place as the members here are very knowledgable and have a number of years experience under their belt. Your best bet is to read as much as you can possibly read and plan what you think might work best for your tank. Pending you can find a home for the frogspawn, I would wait out your tanks cycle for a few more weeks and then start with a cleanup crew. Then from there you might want to consider corals.

So to answer your question, the frogspawn is pretty hardy but that is all relative. No coral (or most anything) is safe in an uncycled tank.

If you have questions, then by all means ask as we are all here to offer up our advice.

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Old 02-04-2004, 07:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I would also say that you will need more light on your tank to support corals. I would say at least 50W on a 10 gallon although others can correct me here...
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:00 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I am glad I could help you ID it!
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They sold it to me for $40. and now that I can't take it back I do not want to waste anymore money.
I would also find another LFS. Any store that will not take livestock back may have other shady practices!!! SUCH AS TELLING YOU THAT YOU ARE BUYING A SIX HEADED BTA!!!!
All jokes aside, Scott is giving the best advice you are going to find.
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i don't think I will be able to find a home for this. btw this morning the tank was awfully dirty looking but ph ammonia nitrate nitrite levels were not bad, any answers?
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:19 PM   #24 (permalink)
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What do you mean by dirty? Was the water cloudy?
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:26 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If the water's a bit cloudy, it's probably a bacterial bloom. You'll have several different blooms of different algaes and bacteria as you tank cycles. When I started my 55g reef, it took almost a month before the water was crystal clear... it's a natural occurrance.
If by dirty you mean 'brown', then you're also hitting the stage in the cycle where diatoms start to bloom. They're a planktonic species, and the brown you are seeing is their skeleton. It cleans off the glass pretty easily, and you can add snails in a couple more weeks to take care of it on the rocks.
It's hard to imagine something that starts out looking so bad turns into a beautiful reef, but eventually it does (kinda like the ugly duckling story).
Hope you get this all figured out.
If you absolutely can't remove the coral from the tank and return it to the LFS, you'll have to do judicious water changes for the next 4-6 weeks as the tank parameters swing back and forth... which may prolong the cycle. The idea is to keep the levels of ammonia and nitrite down enough so that the cycle still initiates yet the concnetration of those two compounds do not reach lethal levels for the coral.

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Old 02-05-2004, 12:18 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Ya Stoney, I was thinkin the same thing. I've cut WAY back on answering posts since the last one.
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:38 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 02-05-2004, 07:22 AM   #29 (permalink)
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WOW- I cannot believe that a LFS would sell a coral as an anemone- My advice is to NEVER patronize this store again- the fact that they blatantly lied to you about what you were buying tells me that they are only out to make money, and have no regard for the well-being of the creatures they are selling. You cannot provide adequate care for something when you don't know what it is, but it seems that their main concern was telling you, the customer, whatever they needed to for you to purchase this "anemone". Sorry about yout unfortunate experience- I hope the coral makes it, so at least you'll have something in your tank, if not an actual anemone.
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Old 02-05-2004, 07:43 AM   #30 (permalink)
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i would'nt say never patronize the store again.some lfs are'nt very knowledgeable in coral id.when they get their shipment they go by what the invoice says it is.they just dont know any better.i've had it happen to me too at one of my lfs.ive helped mine id corals many times in the past, but i still buy from them because at least they admit their mistakes.i also agree with scott that your tank is still very new and you should wait a while to add anything else to your tank.hang around here read as much as you can and reshearch all the corals and fish before you buy you will save money and headaces in the long run.be patient with your tank and keep asking questions we'll help you along.as said before,only bad things happen fast in this hobby.
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